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  •  Safety's good (0+ / 0-)

    You argue that motorcycles are dangerous and guns are dangerous. Okay.

    To make motorcycles safer, your emphasis actually is on making riders and other drivers safer. Good goal.

    I am all for making gun owners safer. But I'm not sure how to do it.

    California does have one good law: the requirement to present a Handgun Safety Certificate and demonstrate safe handling for each purchase of a handgun.

    The study guide for the HSC test is really quite good and covers a lot of the basics. You can download it at:

    I am not sure you could impose this on a national level, other than mandating a state-issued HSC the same way an official government-issued ID, like a driver's license is required. That would leave each state to set its own standards (some states would make it tough; some states would require being able to spell "gun" and give you three chances).

    The "patriots" and NRA would be upset that the government is tracking gun owners. But California HCSs are issued by private training schools certified by the state. The only record that needs to be kept is a record of issuance by the school.

    I don't know how much this would cut down on crime, but it might cut down on accidents and young kids getting hold of guns. As any honest expert will tell you, there's not much you can do to stop a determined teen.

    •  We agree (0+ / 0-)

      The goal is workable safety.   How to do it is difficult - if it were easy it'd have been done by now.  But never let our lack of imagination convince us a problem is intractable.   I don't know how anyone can write music or sculpt ... that clearly doesn't mean it can't be done - just I lack the vision to see how it can be done.

      Note, also, we must be very careful about thinking about these things - there is no 100% effective solution and there never will be.  I am not talking about gun & motorcycle safety here ... I am talking about all solutions to problems.  Whether it is eradicating disease, educating children, getting Americans physically fit, wiping up tribalism & xenophobia - nothing will work 100% of the time.

      BUT the fact that no solution is 100% effective is not an excuse for giving up.  If a solution solves half of the problem then it is worth considering (yes, we have to do a cost-benefit analysis to see if the solution is actually better than the original problem).  

      Why can't we get gun safety?  

      Well, gun manufacturers & vendors make a lot of money - a lot.  And you know all those drug cartels?  We arm them - check out the number of licensed firearm dealers within an hour's drive of the border... (you're welcome, Latin America!).  In the spirit of giving the customer what he wants, the gun industry wants to keep military quality weaponry legal so they can keep making and selling them so their #1 consumers remain faithful (do we really want to lose those jobs to the Chinese - with their AK47 knock-offs?)  But the real kicker is - the gun fatalities in Columbia, El Salvador, Brasil, and Guatemala  make ours look like NOTHING.

      -- illegitimi non carborundum

      by BadBoyScientist on Wed Jun 18, 2014 at 08:50:11 AM PDT

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      •  we can, and we will (1+ / 0-)
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        but since you are the guy that has posted all over the internet that you blow things up because it's fun I don't think I'll rely on your opinion

        •  Point of clarification: I like blowing up stuff (0+ / 0-)

          I do not get to do it as often as I wish.  And I do it safely.

          And if you had read my article (In Defense of Blowing Shit Up) you'd realize that I include things like air rockets, baking-soda & vinegar 'bombs' and their ilk in this blowing shit up.  If you understood the article it was making the point that we're so over-protective of children nowadays we deny them the opportunity to truly learn any science.   I circulated that article again after Kiera Wilmot was arrested for doing a science experiment.  Not that the likes of you would care.

          Anyway, since it seems you don't like blowing stuff up - and likely would approve of incarcerating any students who do anything noisy, messy or dangerous - I don't care what you "think."

          BTW: the best thing I ever saw blown UP was a Space Shuttle Launch - that rides one of the biggest sustained explosions you'll see (until the SLS gets up and running) - it can light the sky 25 miles away.   But you probably complain about all that messy, noisy space stuff.

          -- illegitimi non carborundum

          by BadBoyScientist on Wed Jun 18, 2014 at 05:06:46 PM PDT

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