Skip to main content

View Diary: We love our guns too much, so now we're bulletproofing the children (148 comments)

Comment Preferences

    •  It worked SO well the Last Time.. (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Empower Ink, Shippo1776, Janet 707

      Even the 7 year olds said, in 1962, that Duck and Cover was only a way for the authorities to find the bodies more easily. We had seen the films of the Nuclear Tests on homes and dummies.

      History doesn''t repeat itself, but it does rhyme.

      Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

      by OregonOak on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 02:55:38 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  The Family Fallout Shelter (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        historys mysteries, Janet 707

        From the US Department of Defense brochure, June 1959, (Reprinted September 1961)

        Adequate shielding is the only effective means of preventing radiation casualties.
        I also have a brochure in French that I bought in Paris in Dec 1963. The buxom cartoon woman demonstrating protections wears a black bathing suit, with hairstyles like Marilyn and Betty Grable.

        My parents weren't paying attention, but I was

      •  Duck and cover did make sense at a certain point. (3+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        OregonOak, StevenD56, Janet 707

        In 1951, when Duck and Cover came out, there were relatively few nuclear warheads in the world. The Soviets had just detonated their first A-bomb two years earlier, a device nearly identical in its general design to the Nagasaki bomb.  These bombs would be delivered by long range bombers the Soviets were developing.

        The Hiroshima bomb actually injured more people than it killed (66,000 to 69,000). At 1.5km to 2km there were 50x more non-fatal injuries than immediate deaths. At 2km to 3km there were 80x more non-fatal injuries than deaths.

        As bombs became more powerful in the 50s, the model was to deliver an ever bigger bomb by plane to a city center, and the radius at which injuries overtook immediate deaths got larger and larger.  And as it got larger, the interval between the flash and the shockwave got longer, so that the idea that a trained population could exploit that delay to significantly reduce deaths and injuries wasn't so laughable.

        Then there was Sputnik; a nation which can put a satellite in orbit can deliver a nuclear warhead anywhere it pleases, but that warhead has to be relatively small. Then both sides developed MIRV, which stuffed three then as many as ten or even twelve "small" warheads into each missile.  Cities would be peppered with "small" atomic bombs, where small means 10x as large as the Hiroshima bomb.

        At that point the idea of duck and cover seemed like a joke, but what it really was was an anachronism.  True, it always was a little funny, showing this cheerful but terrifying little film to children.

        And eventually the world had so many warheads and delivery systems the idea that our societies could survive a nuclear war became a joke. And without our societies most of us would die.

        I've lost my faith in nihilism

        by grumpynerd on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 07:25:48 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Yes.. the idea was lame, then absurd. (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Janet 707

          But hey, it gave authorities something To Do. Must keep the authorities busy being authorities. Never know what might happen if they didnt authoritize on command.

          Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

          by OregonOak on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 10:17:23 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Thanks... (0+ / 0-)

          I've learned a little bit about my childhood I didn't know.  

          Stupid...it's the new smart for right wingers.

          by StevenD56 on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 01:15:16 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Not to mention good old nuclear winter which (0+ / 0-)

          would wipe out pretty much everyone who was left.  Though it would definitely help against a nuclear terrorist attack since if such a thing did happen it would most likely be a single low yield (less than 15kt) device.

          You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

          by Throw The Bums Out on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 03:23:28 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site