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  •  Well, She Co-Signed a Letter to Clinton (7+ / 0-)

    Last October urging her to run for President in 2016.  I suppose you could make the case that she's had a secret plan to run the entire time, and wanted to give herself an extra challenge by running against someone with 75%+ approval ratings in the Democratic Party who will be able to raise more money than any human in history for any election.

    BUT....

    In the balance, I'd consider that a reason to think she "won't" as opposed to "she will."

    •  Oh, and there's (4+ / 0-)

      This quote from less than two months ago:

      "All all of the women — Democratic women I should say  — of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Warren said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016.
      •  That's one spin (2+ / 0-)
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        Here's another:

        Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren tiptoed up to the edge of endorsing Hillary Clinton for president.

        But didn't quite do it.

        "You know, all of the women - Democratic women, I should say, of the Senate - urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does," Senator Warren responded to ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week" Sunday when asked if Clinton was her candidate in 2016.

        When Stephanopoulos pushed a second time, asking if Warren would endorse a Clinton 2016 run, Warren responded, "Hillary is terrific."

        •  Apologies, The Omission Was Unintentional (3+ / 0-)
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          I base my belief that she isn't running on the dozens of times she's said she isn't running, and the fact that she has said she hopes Hillary runs, and signed a letter urging Hillary to run.

          NONE of those things are spin.  Those are all real things that happened.

          SPIN is saying that because she stopped short of saying: "I want Hillary Clinton to be the next President of the United States, and I will be her most vocal supporter," that somehow provides any evidence to support the notion that she might be running.

          As I have said perhaps a thousand times on here, if I had both Warren and Clinton on the ballot, I would vote for Warren--it would be an extremely exciting campaign.  I just live in a world where I have to base my decisions and opinions on evidence instead of dreams.

          •  On the "I'm not running" bit (3+ / 0-)
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            PhilJD, elwior, corvo
            In an interview broadcast Sunday night by ABC, Clinton told Barbara Walters she doesn't have "any intentions or plans for running" for the White House in 2004 or 2008.
            Date of the article: Monday, June 9, 2003

            Politicians, like kids, say the DARNDEST things, don't they?

            ...then they change their minds.

          •  The omission was intentional. (1+ / 0-)
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            corvo

            In a subsequent interview, when asked if she was endorsing Hillary Clinton, she quite pointedly said that she wasn't endorsing anyone, that she would be focusing on the 2014 elections for now.

               And I agree with you TooFolk, it'll be a very exciting campaign, ending with the first woman major party candidate for president. And that person will likely be our next president cause the R's got no-one.
               They're so desperate at this point that they're urging Mitt Romney to run again. Seriously.

            "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

            by elwior on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 01:05:50 PM PDT

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      •  All she's saying there was that they were coerced (2+ / 0-)
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        into all signing the letter.  It was a preemptive strike by an over zealous campaign trying to stifle all dissent more than 2 years before the nomination.  It was demeaning to women to expect ALL of the WOMEN to sign the letter when the same was not asked of the ALL of the MEN in the Senate.  

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