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  •  I'm playing catch up on here but are you saying (2+ / 0-)
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    a Judge released evidence of a crime by Walker without him being charged tried and convicted?  Can a Judge or any officer of the Court release evidence like that?

    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubt." Bertrand Russell I'm very certain that is true. 10−122

    by thestructureguy on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 10:50:52 AM PDT

    •  A 7th Appellate Court Judge released (9+ / 0-)

      the filings made on appeal by the various sides.  

      This is common practice.  The "Unnamed Persons" who filed in "Judge" Randa's court have been demanding that they and their filings be kept secret.

      Randa, in an order so stupid it was instantly overturned by the appellate court, demanded that the physical evidence in the criminal investigation be destroyed.  A laughable ruling which lasted minutes rather than days.

      Basically Friends of Scott Walker (his campaign) and the numerous "unnamed" coordinators try to make the case that Wisconsin Election law does not apply to them.

      "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty (Chris Christie, Antonin Scalia, or Scotty Walker (pick your favorite) said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."

      by Eman on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 10:59:10 AM PDT

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    •  Yes it can, as part of the appeals process (6+ / 0-)

      and theres no indictments because Judge Randa blocked the probe from continuing, which is unprecedented. usually the process is allowed to play out, and the proper place to contest the charges is a courtroom, after charges are filed. which is the probe is allowed to resume, charges will be filed.

    •  My understanding is ... (1+ / 0-)
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      That one of the outside groups being investigated petitioned the court for the document release, and the prosecution was happy to go along...

      A mind like a book, has to be open to function properly.

      by falconer520 on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 11:20:33 AM PDT

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    •  And the public release was demanded by, not (6+ / 0-)

      the prosecutors, but by Eric O'Keefe of the Wisconson Club for Growth, one of the groups R J Johnson was (unlawfully) coordinating.

      They boasted about this release of documents yesterday.  Perhaps they had not read them yet when releasing their statements.  (NOTE:  Bolding mine.  I couldn't resist taking the quote below from  Yes, the wingnuts wanted the Walker-Rove email out in public for whatever reason.)

      The information released Thursday came at the behest of the conservative groups suing officials for using the prosecutor's office to launch a political campaign against them in violation of their rights to free speech.

      "The materials released today are all ones that we asked the district court to unseal because the public has a right to know about the John Doe prosecutors' abuse of government power," Wisconsin Club for Growth attorney Andrew Grossman said in a statement released to the press.

      If Walker has a complaint with being exposed (again), his complaint needs to be directed at Wisconsin Club for Growth, not the state prosecutors.

      "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty (Chris Christie, Antonin Scalia, or Scotty Walker (pick your favorite) said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."

      by Eman on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 11:32:29 AM PDT

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      •  This is just gob smacking to me. (6+ / 0-)

        Is it really possible that O'Keefe and his ilk are so freaking arrogant and ignorant that they really believe they can dump campaign finance laws under the banner of free speech? Woo hoo, these fellas have been drinking some powerful GOP moonshine.

        But then when you have judges like Randa, you kind of see why they get so cocky. Un-freaking believable that judge. Thankfully he was so far over the line he was easy to stop. This time. Loved the article about how many paid for trips to swanky resorts the Koch brothers have treated him to.

        "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

        by StellaRay on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 12:29:11 PM PDT

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        •  Strategy (0+ / 0-)

          What if they have selected the fall guys and ending this process allows them to get back to fund raising and payola with a new and more intelligent cast of characters? Walker has tried to make a deal - others may have made a deal already or will stupidly fall on a sword. Even if Walker is out the budget in the future is trashed and the legislature is gerrymandered to keep it R. So Burke will be blamed by a billion dollar ad campaign and the Rs will refuse to undue their total trashing of a once good state. In Koch style thinking that is another win because the cash will keep coming in and the chaos provides additional opportunities for those that have complete moral flexibility.

          •  Need to tie illegal funding to GOP State assembly (1+ / 0-)
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            Scott Walker case needs to be tied to funding of other Republican State elected positions. Scott Walker did not screw Wisconsin alone, the State assembly voted for his agenda. State assembly could have overridden his stupidity if it had the guts and the interests of Wisconsin citizens. Democrats forget how successful GOP has been targeting local elections.

        •  YES. They basically state that in their brief. (0+ / 0-)

          As Special Prosecutor Schmitz points out clearly in his response to their suit, they tacitly admit to breaking Wisconsin Election Law, claiming it does not apply to them.

          For people not familiar with this story, Wisconsin Election Law is more specific in the illegal coordination it defines than are many other states and federal regulations.

          Exhibit C from prosecutor Schmitz is excellent reading, explaining the Wisconsin Law more clearly than any other description I've seen thus far.

          "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty (Chris Christie, Antonin Scalia, or Scotty Walker (pick your favorite) said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."

          by Eman on Sat Jun 21, 2014 at 02:26:55 PM PDT

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      •  Could be they knew the documents would be (0+ / 0-)

        released, so they are attempting to mitigate the damage by claiming they wanted them released.

        "Yeah, sure: you found me guilty of the murder I in fact committed in broad daylight in public with hundreds of eye-witnesses.  But that's only because I was seeking permanent housing in the Gray Bar Hotel."

        This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain.

        by JJustin on Sat Jun 21, 2014 at 03:13:03 PM PDT

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    •  All Court records are public unless sealed; (0+ / 0-)

      in a Civil case sealing may be part of the settlement or in Criminal or Family Court it may be to protect an endangered witness (from death) or a minor child. None of these apply to Friends of Scott Walker. Like the Republican in NYC that wanted his prosecution overturned because it would embarrass GOP election efforts.

    •  Evidence? (0+ / 0-)

      Evidence exhibits in a Public court case are free for anyone to look at. Information posted in media about a private citizen can be libel. None of the principals in this case (Walker=Gov, Rove=ex-WH, Koch=Pres. candidate) are private citizens.
      As Governor, Walker was a public employee and his communications belonged to the State. In addition to claiming "executive privilege" (worked for Nixon, right?) he setup a bypass of Wisconsin State services at his State paid office. These evidentiary pieces could not have been reconstructed if they had been destroyed.

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