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  •  His "progressiveness" may be up for debate (6+ / 0-)

    on several important issues, but I think Schweitzer is going to run on a economic message that will be significantly to the left of HRC's. There is a wide open lane for candidates that want to go aggressively against Wall Street and the banks, and there is no way Hillary can do that  believably.

    •  Schweitzer is DOA at this point. (9+ / 0-)

      I want to live in a world where George Zimmerman offered Trayvon Martin a ride home to get him out of the rain that night. -Bishop G. Brewer

      by the dogs sockpuppet on Tue Jun 24, 2014 at 10:07:29 AM PDT

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    •  Did you pay attention last week? (10+ / 0-)

      The Montana gadfly shot his presidential aspirations in the foot. I used to be a huge fan of his potential candidacy, as I was impressed with the way he framed a lot of progressive positions in a way that appealed to the libertarian (that's with a lower-case "l") voters of Montana. But ever since Obama's re-election, Schweitzer has gone out of his way to trash-talk the President, and Hillary, for that matter. He seems more and more unhinged, and his bizarre comments in that telephone interview last week, honestly, seem alcohol-induced. I used to hope that Schweitzer would be taking steps toward running for President. Now, the only steps I'm hoping for him to take are . . . Twelve.

      31, chick, Jewish, solid progressive, NY-14 currently, FL-22 native, went to school in IL-01. "'Let's talk about health care, Mackenzie!' 'Oh Amanda, I'd rather not; that's not polite!'"

      by The Caped Composer on Tue Jun 24, 2014 at 10:21:12 AM PDT

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      •  Stranger things have happened. (0+ / 0-)

        Depends upon who else runs.

        Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
        I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
        —Spike Milligan

        by polecat on Tue Jun 24, 2014 at 10:22:14 AM PDT

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      •  Do you honeslty think that the majority of (1+ / 0-)
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        America would find equating effeminate men with homosexuals to be a disqualifying level of homophobia? I'm not defending it, but I'm not going to fool myself into believing that most of America is reaching Tumblr blog levels of outrage over that comment.  

        Obviously what he said was mildly homophobic, but we just elected a guy to be President that didn't think gay people were worthy of legal marriage. That JUST happened, and nobody was saying that holding that very bigoted belief disqualified Obama.

        And there is a lot of room to criticize Obama and Hillary, ESPECIALLY if you are coming from an angle of economic populism. Like I said above, I'm not going to vote for this guy. But I want as many people as possible to bring a strong economic populist message to this primary, and I especially want Hillary to be aggressively confronted on economic issues and where her loyalties lie. I know Schweitzer will bring that message.

        •  I would hope it would disqualify him from (2+ / 0-)
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          winning the Dem nomination in the primaries.  Bigots in the general probably would vote for the "R" over him.  I think he is a losing proposition now.  

          I wanted to like him VERY much.  But last week's comments are the kind of thing that takes 8 years (2 cycles) for the public to forgive/forget.  It was pretty awful stuff to say AND he said it on the radio (e.g., he acted like he is an amateur politician).  

          Mmmmm. Sprinkles. - H.J. Simpson.

          by ten canvassers on Tue Jun 24, 2014 at 02:23:46 PM PDT

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          •  By the time we are actually in the primary race (0+ / 0-)

            what he said will be long forgotten.

            And even though it is homophobic, I don't think that your average American would take great umbrage at the idea that effeminate men might be homosexual.  We just aren't at the point yet where saying something like this is a dealbreaker.

            I'm not going to vote for him, but I also don't think that we have a whole lot of people that would be willing to stand face to face with Hillary and call her out for basically being a Wall Street employee. Schweitzer would do this, and in fact I think he is itching to do it. I definitely want to make sure he is in the running by the time we have our first primary.

          •  I would rather he stuck his foot in his mouth (0+ / 0-)

            before the election rather that turn out to be a liar after the election.

            The primaries do need progressive candidates to bring the discourse more to the left, even if it is only lip service from the more centrist candidates.

            If there are more progressives in the legislature, which is probably more important than the Presidency (haven't the Republicans taught us anything), they can bring pressure to bear on the President.

            Worrying about who is president at this point is wasting effort that should go elsewhere. Notice how Warren is trying to get more progressives in the Senate.

        •  That wasn't all he said -- did you hear his (2+ / 0-)
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          "figure of speech" regarding Feinstein:

          She was the woman who was standing under the streetlight with her dress pulled all the way up over her knees and now she says, 'I'm a nun,' when it comes to this spying I mean, maybe that's the wrong metaphor — but she was all in!
          http://www.latimes.com/...

          Incredibly offensive. And sadly, if he hadn't used that description and simply talked about the irony of Feinstein's complaints given her unqualified support for NSA overreach, I would have agreed with him.

          and yes, I think Schweitzer's comments about Cantor would offend lots of people, the kind of people whose enthusiasm makes a difference in elections.

          While Democrats work to get more people to vote, Republicans work to ensure those votes won't count.

          by Tamar on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 12:22:14 PM PDT

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