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  •  my recollection is - (1+ / 0-)
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    Darth Stateworker

    his campaign got larger donations than are matched under NYC public campaign finance law

    and that his campaign falsely reported these donations as instead coming from a lot of small donors

    I think the match is 6 to 1 for the first $250 given and money beyond $1500 or $2500 is not matched from the same donor.

    So if the campaign got $50,000 from one donor but then falsely reported that as coming from 500 donors at $100 each

    the campaign would get $300,000 in matching funds instead of $1000

    pretty serious stuff - a difference of a quarter million

    the city campaign finance board found that irregularities were so wide that they took away all Liu's matching funds which  certainly left his campaign with much less ammunition than the rest of the field

    and a campaign manager went to jail

    •  Jenny Hou got 10 months, (1+ / 0-)
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      poco

      and Oliver Pan got 4 months. Both testified in court under examination and cross that Liu had nothing to do with it, that they thought they were helping him. The FBI investigation cleared Liu. There is your serious, despicable, criminal, ill never vote for that evil man fraud.

      Liu made a mistake in choosing friends instead of professionals in handling his campaign finance. Thats an example of bad judgement for sure. And the City was right in pulling his money considering what went down. But to suggest that hes this despicable criminal and anti progressive, especially when one really doesn't know shit, is pure bullshit.

      Especially considering the scum that folks in Manhattan elect.

      •  thank you (1+ / 0-)
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        poco

        although we elect some nice guys in manhattan too, for the record  ;D

      •  i also seem to recall (1+ / 0-)
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        poco

        a really good article about this in, maybe, new york magazine which examined the cultural issues at play--  liu represents a huge pride for many asians in nyc as the immigrant son who has made good and been the first citywide elected asian official.  the culture of giving cash as gifts, prevalent especially in chinese culture, was highlighted to frame the corruption scandal in a rather different light--  one that backs up the FBI's finding that he knew nothing about the money at issue

        •  That was Liu's error. (1+ / 0-)
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          poco

          Naturally the Asian community would want to support one of their own. Italian businesses raised money for De Blasio and Giuliani. Koch made no secret of the money he raised from the Zionists. Dinkins raised money from black folks across America and in the Caribbean. This is not a big deal.

          But Liu didnt bring in professionals to handle the due diligence. When it comes to stuff like that, you dont appoint your friends. It was a bad judgment call and hes suffering for it politically.

          But this anti-progressive and despicable criminal stuff is nonsense. And not just a little bit suspect as to its origin.

          •  i agree (1+ / 0-)
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            poco

            and you're right that there's no good excuse for not having good oversight of your own campaign.  even so---  i know a lot of people feel like he got a rough deal when he was denied matching funding for the mayoral campaign.  i imagine that probably embarrassed and pissed off a lot his asian base.  hopefully they will turn out to return him to his former glory against the no-count traitor avella

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