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  •  Well said! (13+ / 0-)

    This myth about the President being some sort of executive Rambo is what got Obama in trouble with Progressives early on. But President Obama isn't the primary reason we never talked about single payer, medicare for all or even a strong public option when pushing the ACA. That distinction belongs to people like Joe Lieberman and Kent Conrad. Obama should have argued for those alternatives and he should have done so strongly but in the end it wouldn't have made a difference. A few conservadems, (and Lieberman) were never going to allow anything remotely like real reform pass. (To be very clear, regardless of the inevitability of public health care failing to become law, we should have had the conversation! And we can lay that at Mr. Obama's feet.) Blaming Obama for not being a progressive President is fair, blaming him for Congress failing to enact progressive policies is simplistic and misleading. Obama isn't a ship's Captain. And Clinton wouldn't be either. Presidents do what Congress allows them to do.

    "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for a real Republican every time." Harry Truman

    by MargaretPOA on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 06:30:50 PM PDT

    •  I disagree with your two main points, MargaretPOA (2+ / 0-)
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      Crashing Vor, sideboth

      Your comment really got my writing muse up in arms. What began as a reply to a comment has now become a diary. I hope you will look at it, MargaretPOA, and let me know what YOU think.... :)

      Democratic discourse and civil dialogue. How wonderful is that! Thank you for causing me to stop, and do something about it.

      Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
      Left/Right: -7.75
      Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51

      by Bud Fields on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 01:30:33 AM PDT

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      •  At least dial it back. (2+ / 0-)
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        elwior, codairem

        I doubt ending it entirely is politically doable. But we really ought to be able to dial it back to its pre-1975, "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington," talking-required form.

        And you're right--doing so is critical.

        "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

        by HeyMikey on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 11:41:53 AM PDT

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