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  •  what if? (3+ / 0-)
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    No, it's not going to change the minds of those serving on SCOTUS but what if a couple of them have a heart attack or just get tired of it all and resign?

    We need to be ready for that by ensuring the Dems have adequate control of the senate.

    •  We all expect that Justice Ginsburg will retire (0+ / 0-)

      in the next two years, but President Obama hasn't had any problems having his picks approved by the Senate and I don't think he would even if the Republicans had control (although GOP control seems unlikely).

      None of the conservative majority will ever retire if a Democrat is President. They will die in the saddle waiting for a GOP administration.

      But I agree keeping the largest majority possible in the Senate is important. My point was that I don't think the Hobby Lobby decision will have a significant effect on turnout for either side.

      "let's talk about that" uid 92953

      by VClib on Tue Jul 01, 2014 at 09:48:24 AM PDT

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      •  Note that as of now (0+ / 0-)

        A Supreme Court nomination can still be filibustered.

        •  Historically that hasn't happened (0+ / 0-)

          Nominees have been given an up or down vote. Some didn't have the votes.

          "let's talk about that" uid 92953

          by VClib on Tue Jul 01, 2014 at 09:58:31 AM PDT

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          •  Yes, but it was (0+ / 0-)

            A specific exemption when the filibuster for nominees was removed. Don't think that the GOP won't take advantage of that if there's anything they don't like about the nominee.

            •  The President has nominated main stream (0+ / 0-)

              candidates and if he did that again I don't think the GOP would filibuster. However, if he nominated someone like Goodwin Liu they would filibuster. And Liu is definitely on the President's short list. The Republican Senators will never allow Liu to be named to the federal bench if they have any means of blocking him. Liu, a brilliant legal liberal, made a tragic mistake of personally objecting to the nomination of Samuel Alito at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Alito's nomination. Liu wasn't representing any group, just himself. In the view of the GOP that was behavior that was unforgivable and they have vowed to never allow him to serve. The President tried to place Liu on a federal appeals court, but was unsuccessful. Liu currently serves on the California Supreme Court.

              "let's talk about that" uid 92953

              by VClib on Tue Jul 01, 2014 at 10:14:55 AM PDT

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