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  •  Indeed. For some it may not be (4+ / 0-)
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    the most comfortable interview.

    There were similar acts of defiance in San Francisco at Compton's Cafeteria, in Los Angeles at Cooper's donuts, and I think another in Philadelphia.  A lot of the customers of those places were drag queens and male hustlers and other folks who were mostly just minding their own business and relying on each other's company and support to get by.  

    The police targeted them because they could, and for no other real reason.  When what was needed was to leave well enough alone.  

    "How can we know the dancer from the dance?" (Yeats)

    by Remediator on Fri Jul 04, 2014 at 06:34:58 AM PDT

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    •  Not to get too far from the point but I will (3+ / 0-)
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      Perhaps it's my Union background or the fact that many I grew up with joined the NYPD but I always have this strong urge to stand up for the rank and file police officer.

      I read so many diaries here about stop and frisk that berated the cop on the street when everyone knows that if you wish to keep your job you need to listen to your boss.

      In 1969 societal norms were so much about "if you are different than you're bad." Our politicians, church leaders just about everyone said so. I was 13 at the time and I was being raised to defend those backwards white values.

      I know that "just doing my job" is never a good enough excuse in progressive circles. The cops were probably as bigoted as everyone else but for all we know, perhaps one or two of them was a closeted Gays with no way out.  Perhaps all of them that are still living, now have stories that fit in with today's progressive values in NYC.

      I got great joy from watching the NYPD march on Sunday with brass band and full uniforms. Because that is where this has gone.

      •  It really is where it's gone, but (5+ / 0-)
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        what a despairing society it would have been for a closeted cop in 1969 -- even in New York or San Francisco.  

        And even more despairing for a sexual exile targeted for harassment by police.  

        The dust-ups at Stonewall and Compton's probably were inevitable.  The police rank and file would not all have been anti-LGBTQ, but many of their superiors in the force were.  And they made habitual fun of harassing and arresting people at the Stonewall.  The raid on June 29 was a planned, targeted raid.

        One night in June, the sexual exiles in the bar rose up and fought back against the law enforcement forces.  Glass was broken, bottles were thrown, the whole neighborhood jumped in on the side of the Stonewall patrons, and the police had to retreat.  

        The NYPD marching in the Pride parade is a remarkable thing, no question.  The department has evolved more or less with the rest of the country.  

        But in 1969 on that summer night, things inside the bar were in no need of police harassment.  But it's what they got anyway.  

        "How can we know the dancer from the dance?" (Yeats)

        by Remediator on Fri Jul 04, 2014 at 07:22:48 AM PDT

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