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  •  I get the outrage (1+ / 0-)
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    But honestly, does anyone think Germany does not have spies here? Or that other allies don't? Here is an article from jast a few months ago about Israel spying on us.

    It wouldn't surprise me if other countries try to do or have been doing the same crap the NSA does. We were just the ones who got caught.

    •  oh, you know, I am German, worked for (3+ / 0-)
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      OHdog, BMScott, stevemb

      German TV in Washington DC. Our female colleagues sometimes joked about their American boyfriends, apparently their boyfriends too often worked for the NSA at Fort Meade for it to be just a haphazardly thingy.

      So, the joke went like this, who is spying on whom, the American NSA guy his German girlfriend working for German TV or the German girl trying to find some "spicy" story through their NSA related boyfriend.

      We got somewhat calmed down when she said her boyfriend spies on the Russians. (wiping off my sweat here). We have a Polish guy, who really, really doesn't like Snowden much and I guess the Russians neither, but then he had a Russian wife.

      Those Russian women... oh la la ... spicy, I tell you... stories for the fiction inclined writer in abundance.


      When CT theories getting funny, the funniest guys to nuts and I go to sleep. Nothing to see here. Move on.

      We know a hell of a lot, but we understand very little. Manfred Max-Neef

      by mimi on Fri Jul 04, 2014 at 04:53:27 PM PDT

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    •  What would Germany's interests be (5+ / 0-)
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      corvo, lotlizard, koNko, mimi, stevemb

      if they did spy on the US? They have no military to speak of, i.e. only for defensive purposes, the country is more interested in economic development than spreading democracy. I'm really curious about what the motivation would be, in your opinion. The US is falling apart, literally, what's the US have that could be of any interest to Germany whatsoever? I can only think of foreign-based neo-Nazi groups that the German fringe could be in contact with, but that's about it. Maybe I have no imagination, but to me the main reasons for spying would almost always ultimately be for military purposes. I'm sure the German authorities do a lot of internal monitoring to flag potential terrorists, and they have been successful in stopping some attacks. So the defensive side of intelligence work seems to work fine.

      „Wer kämpft, kann verlieren. Wer nicht kämpft, hat schon verloren.“ - Bertolt Brecht

      by translatorpro on Fri Jul 04, 2014 at 04:54:51 PM PDT

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