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  •  Well done Galtisalie!! (10+ / 0-)

    You have done justice to Luxemburg as well as Marx. I think that Marx certainly was far too hopeful in his understanding of the US ... he lived there and wrote (for newspapers) there and was there after the civil war (and corresponded with Lincoln, btw). The optimism is interesting, he understood the violence which was required to ensure full capitalism in the US (yes, that was the purpose of the Civil War ... again Luxemburg's understanding of the requirements for capitalism to survive are very helpful) to understand this need, he saw the rise of the complete consolidation of the system and the rise of what was called monopoly capitalism. So, I find his optimism interesting (and rather unlike him to be honest; yes, there must be a bit of optimism to be a revolutionary socialist, but he did understand the system well enough to have been a bit more cautious!).

    Irrespective of the above, I agree completely about the need for anti-capitalist internationalism. An additional reason is that those that rule enjoy the disharmony amongst those that should be united and play upon nationalism and xenophobia to do divide and rule. We are all exploited at the hands of this wretched system and the sooner that we realise that workers and peasants fighting for their rights are our allies (and not a threat to us, but to the ruling class instead) and that the ruling classes are not only destroying our present and potential futures of ourselves and the planet, the sooner we can get rid of the swine. Socialism can not be built in one country and that means that we need an international movement, so I agree and agree strongly!

    Our movement to eliminate the system must be democratic and it must be international and it must be based upon international solidarity. For too long we have allowed ourselves to be divided along false national boundaries. We have allowed those that claim to be democratic deny that right to democracy to others on a continual basis. Hiding behind false words has blinded so many, but it is impossible to continue to lie when your actions demonstrate constantly another reality. To quote Marx  on freedom

    "Freedom can be attained only in and through the community. The development of real freedom always and everywhere means the restriction of the freedom of others to oppress and do wrong. Freedom for the vast majority necessarily means restriction of the freedom of a small minority to exploit the labour of others, destroy nature monopolise the social means of production and communication.

    Freedom consists in converting the state from an organ superimposed upon society into one completely subordinate to it; and today, too, the forms of state are more free or less free to the extent that they restrict the “freedom of the state. Karl Marx
    Critique of the Gotha Program, Chapter 4 (


    "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

    by NY brit expat on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 03:37:36 PM PDT

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