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  •  What's the standard? What you think (0+ / 0-)

    Or should we take a poll where majority rules and the rest just have to STFU?

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    by dov12348 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 09:15:06 PM PDT

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    •  The standard is science. (4+ / 0-)
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      You can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts.

      -9.50/-7.59 - "Why are the missiles called peace-keepers when they're aimed to kill?" -Tracy Chapman

      by Situational Lefty on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 10:20:31 PM PDT

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      •  If it's "science" (0+ / 0-)

        what do you do with a scientist who disagrees?  Oh I get it - they're all automatically quacks.  No need to even hear their reasons.

        While you OTOH are omniscient.  Must be nice.

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        by dov12348 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:37:12 AM PDT

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    •  fortunately, science has a method to tell what is (2+ / 0-)
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      real and what is not.

      We call it, conveniently enough, "the scientific method".

      The entire world since the Renaissance was built on it. Before that, we were living in our own shit and shaking rattles to scare away evil spirits.

      In the end, reality always wins.

      by Lenny Flank on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 06:11:50 AM PDT

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      •  There is no other possible opinion (0+ / 0-)

        other than "science."  And the scientists who disagree just have to STFU.  I see.

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        by dov12348 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:33:42 AM PDT

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        •  that's right (0+ / 0-)

          The earth is round. People who say it is flat, are wrong. Period. End of debate.

          Sorry if you don't like that.  Reality sucks.  (shrug)

          In the end, reality always wins.

          by Lenny Flank on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 03:51:54 PM PDT

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          •  That's not an analogy. (0+ / 0-)

            Nobody's fallen off the edge of the Earth and we can see the sphere from space.

            Find an actual analogy and get back to me between your going to events and shouting down more speakers you disagree with.

            Besides why would you see the need to silence or shout down a flat earther? People can see for themselves the fool he is, right out of his own mouth.

            Maybe here you fear something.

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            by dov12348 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 05:34:36 AM PDT

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            •  I do indeed fear something . . . . (0+ / 0-)

              I feat that the anti-science crackpots of all the various stripes will one day win, and we will as a society once again go back to living in our own shit and praying to the sun god to cure our diseases.

              I have no desire to see a repeat of The Dark Ages.

              In the end, reality always wins.

              by Lenny Flank on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 07:24:29 AM PDT

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              •  Best method (0+ / 0-)

                Doing the reverse:  Going to the other side and refuting them through debate.  

                Shutting them down to begin with would just raise suspicions you're unsure enough of your own position you fear to test it in open forum.

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                by dov12348 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 08:01:05 AM PDT

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                •  oddly enough, that is exactly what the (0+ / 0-)

                  creationists keep saying . . . . .

                  There is no "debate". The earth is not flat.  Period.

                  In the end, reality always wins.

                  by Lenny Flank on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 08:11:24 AM PDT

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                  •  So both sides feel (0+ / 0-)

                    ...they are 100% absolutely omniscient about it.  Not sure how you can attract many converts that way.

                    So continue to preach to the choir and see how far that gets you.

                    You can look at a photo and see the sphere of the Earth immediately.  You can't see a photo of global warming.  So this does need debate.

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                    by dov12348 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 08:20:37 AM PDT

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