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  •  Yep Nixon, Heritage Foundation and Romney All (6+ / 0-)

    promoted this basic program and Romney signed it into law.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 05:18:36 PM PDT

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    •  As you know, it is the basic premise that matters, (4+ / 0-)

      and the suckers have fallen right in line.

      A non-governmental (unaccountable), unregulated, profit-seeking industry has been permanently ensconced as the sole source and arbiters of American Health care.

      What could possibly go wrong?

      "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

      by Greyhound on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 05:38:12 PM PDT

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      •  Hillary (1+ / 0-)
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        spent a hell of a lot of political capital in proposing single-payer about 20 years ago.  Remember all the hell that FDR went through after instituting Medicare and Social Security?  The ACA is merely a political play to decrease the amount of animus toward fixing the broken healthcare system and help out more Americans.

        No, I stand by my statements.  The Rs in the lower house of Congress has voted how many times to repeal the ACA?  The Supremes are now chipping away at the legislation just as they have been chipping away at Roe v Wade.

        Until we in the US view healthcare as a human right and not just a benefit for finding a job that pays more than minimum wage, we will continue to allow middlemen to stand between us and our medical providers.

        •  HRC didn't have any "political capital" 22 years (3+ / 0-)

          ago, she was the First Lady sent on a fool's errand in order to get a disastrous economic policy through without it getting too much attention.

          I would have to think long and hard to come up with a method, process, and result better guaranteed to both fail and create a sensation in the failure, than that debacle.

          Read chapters 20 - 26 of The Prince.

          Newt Gingrich & Co. recognized the threat that real health care reform represented.

          "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

          by Greyhound on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 07:07:33 PM PDT

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        •  I should have added "as well" onto that last (0+ / 0-)

          sentence.

          "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

          by Greyhound on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 07:34:59 PM PDT

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        •  ACA is a start (6+ / 0-)

          I'm a nurse working to coordinate care for people who didn't have insurance before ACA, and I have friends who couldn't afford insurance before ACA. I am well aware that insurance is not the same as health care, but don't despise a first step. If we don't defend what we've been able to accomplish so far we will be back at square one.

          •  Yep. I replied above to mention it's helped me... (1+ / 0-)
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            A lot. And it's helping a lot of the working-poor and working-class people I know. Maybe we can make it better and get something closer to true single-payer. That's my preference, and a candidate's position on single-payer/medicare-for-all is a huge issue in determining whether I can support him/her...

            But let's not shit on what we have now so that we end up with the previous status quo. This is better.

        •  Also, no I don't remember FDR, that was over 80 (1+ / 0-)
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          years ago and was also the last time that the course of this nation was changed.

          "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

          by Greyhound on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 08:21:50 PM PDT

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