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  •  Marriage is a deeply conservative (4+ / 0-)
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    institution, and one which can really work. Even stopped clocks are right twice a day.

    SPES MEA IN DEO EST.

    by commonmass on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 08:03:37 AM PDT

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    •  I once got into a discussion (4+ / 0-)

      with a person who opposed marriage equality because it undermined what he felt was the inherent nonconformity of being gay, and because he felt it could feed the backlash against his desire to have multiple partners.  

      I never quite got that - it seemed like the mirror argument to those who opposed marriage equality for 'moral' reasons. I do think he had a point in terms of the social pressure to marry, once marriage is available. But the dream, it seems to me, is for sexual orientation to be no more relevant than left- or right-handedness in the decision whether to conform or not, to be transgressive or not, to partner or not.

      “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

      by ivorybill on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 08:16:51 AM PDT

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      •  Oh good lord... Was he in his 20's? (0+ / 0-)

        Thats the only age from which I've had to listen to a "Don't you dare call me NORMAL!" lament.  

        Music, culture, taste, education, values, worldview, ... and now they want to play the "I was gay before being gay was cool!" card as well?

        Youth.  Such a waste on the young.

        Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

        by Wisper on Fri Jul 11, 2014 at 05:40:32 AM PDT

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