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  •  I prefer Elizabeth Warren. (9+ / 0-)

    We know where she stands on issues related to income inequality. She's an economic Populist.
       Why not go for the real thing right from the start?

    "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

    by elwior on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 09:33:06 AM PDT

    •  Because she doesn't want to run? (0+ / 0-)

      Because, sadly, to be a viable candidate if she did run would require her to "muzzle" her stands considerably. I don't think she is the kind of person to take to that.

      “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

      by Catte Nappe on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 09:50:10 AM PDT

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    •  Elizabeth Warren was a registered Republican (0+ / 0-)

      Her comment was on the order of being a GOP voter until the "mid-nineties." Then she changed. . . .

      Some folks may be able to help her "sell" some version of a conversion on the road to Damascus, but it would be a hard slog with traditional Democrats who make up a very large percentage of the convention delegates.

      In my opinion, Sen. Warren clearly sees the difficulties of moving away from her political past.

      We're all just working for Pharaoh.

      by whl on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 11:01:59 AM PDT

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      •  and HRC was once -- her own term -- (0+ / 0-)

        a "Goldwater Girl."  

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 12:17:10 PM PDT

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        •  Good point. (3+ / 0-)
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          Of course, to her credit, she did manage to realize the error of her ways before she got out of her teens.

          •  Yes, she's been doing a pretty convincing (2+ / 0-)
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            imitation of a Rockefeller Republican ever since.

            Fortunately for her, the Democratic Party has shifted rightward to accommodate her.

            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

            by corvo on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 02:04:52 PM PDT

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            •  But you do an unconvincing imitation of a Democrat (0+ / 0-)

              We're all just working for Pharaoh.

              by whl on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 04:22:16 PM PDT

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              •  That's not nice. (0+ / 0-)

                I know plenty of good Democrats who share corvo's views.
                It's a big tent.

                •  less and less so with time. (0+ / 0-)

                  Those of us not "ready for Hillary" may well be shown the door. After all, if we don't hve lots of cash, what good are we?

                  Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                  by corvo on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 06:04:44 PM PDT

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                  •  You're good to make phone calls, register voters, (0+ / 0-)

                    run for precinct committee officer, door bell for candidates that "believe" in your point of view (so they can go to the nominating convention and not vote for Clinton), drive voters to their polling place, etc.

                    I'll be happy to show you the door so you can get on the street and get out the vote for your favorite candidate.

                    We're all just working for Pharaoh.

                    by whl on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 06:28:33 PM PDT

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                    •  exactly. (0+ / 0-)

                      You tell us who the Anointed Ones are, and we either STFU or get out. I couldn't have put it more drastically myself.

                      Enjoy working for Pharaoh!

                      Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                      by corvo on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 06:34:27 PM PDT

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                      •  No. Get your ass to work. (0+ / 0-)

                        You find the Democrats that you like and do something to get them working for your beliefs. If you don't like H. Clinton then get onboard with some other campaign. And you can try to convince me that your pet project is worth my time.

                        I don't tell you who is anointed. But don't you tell me that Democrats who are supported by millions of other Democrats are imitation "republicans." Because that just makes it clear that you don't know the difference.

                        We're all just working for Pharaoh.

                        by whl on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 10:28:07 PM PDT

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                •  Yes, it's a big tent, and Mrs. Clinton is in it. (1+ / 0-)
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                  Stating that Hillary Clinton is an "imitation" of any Republican seems much worse than "not nice."

                  Democrats who disagree with Clinton can make their case without the ridiculous comparisons.

                  We're all just working for Pharaoh.

                  by whl on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 06:20:51 PM PDT

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                  •  Point taken. (0+ / 0-)

                    I tend to consider insults against other members here to be more offensive than insults against public figures.  

                    •  His comment is not an insult (0+ / 0-)

                      H. Clinton is not a Republican and not an imitation of a Republican. So the comment is false and stupid.

                      And my describing the source of that comment as not much of a Democrat is not an insult. But it would be an insult to label the commenter as a lying fool.

                      We're all just working for Pharaoh.

                      by whl on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 10:30:44 PM PDT

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