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  •  Those lawyers are there because it is HARD to get (15+ / 0-)

    disability. They routinely turn the majority down the first time just to discourage people from applying.

    My sister has been trying for years even though she has thorough documentation of her disability. They DO NOT HAND OUT CHECKS LIKE CANDY.

    She is in constant pain and her hubby is out of work which means that my 86 year father is supporting them and their son.

    Excuse my yelling but I get frustrated because so many people have the wrong impression on this. It was this way EVEN BEFORE the recession and now it is worse. That is why you see this explosion of disability lawyers.

    Fraud is very rare, however I am all for going after the those who take advantage of the system. The problem is that people think MOST PEOPLE are doing that.

    And people don't think about the fact that disability claims are going up simply because of an aging population.

    I take the phrase "Bleeding Heart Liberal" as a compliment...

    by Pixie5 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 05:19:12 PM PDT

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    •  And My Sister In Law is Fraud (1+ / 0-)
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      I totally realize there's a need.  As much as I totally realize my sister in law is a lying cheat grifter whose main employment problem is laziness and stupidity.

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      Those lawyers are there because it is HARD to get disability. They routinely turn the majority down the first time just to discourage people from applying.
      I agree with that.  I'm disabled.  I went through the process of applying for disability.  The amount of doctor's documentation required in your patient chart is enough to make most people ineligible even if they are truly disabled.  Plus there are periodic reviews to make sure you're still disabled, also requiring doctor's documentation.  You also get to appear before the social security (or them looking at you flat on your back).  Fakers won't pass by a social security person standing there looking at you.

      Also, you have to wait 6 months before you get your first check, once approved.  That's living 6 months without any income whatsoever.  This means that if you have a short-term disability, like a car accident or whatever, you won't get one check of disability during the time you can't work.

      As for the TV ads for an attorney . . . they can't help you if the doctor's charts and documentation aren't there or the diagnosis isn't real.  Try finding a board certified doc who will fake his diagnosis just so you can fake a disability check.  They won't risk their livelihood so you can watch TV all day.

      It's like the Medicaid fraud claims.  All those welfare queens who work the system.  The real facts, though, are that corporations are responsible for almost ALL the fraud of medicare/medicaid by billing for services not given.  That's freely available facts from any state's medicaid program or the medicare websites.  Yet, the poor folks who need the benefits are blamed and said they don't really need them.  The truth is that it isn't that easy.  These programs have had decades to revise its' screening process to weed out fraud.  But the legislatures/Congress just aren't that interested in preventing fraud by corporations and requiring even the smallest amount of corporation review as aggressive as they go after an individual (I mean a real individual, not "a corporation is a person, too" BS).  

      For every person who believes these lies coming from the right are just plain ignorant and uninformed.

      •  Yes, the wait...I forgot to mention that... (1+ / 0-)
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        Fortunately in my state of CA they have short-term disability for up to a year. That does help a lot. Although you can still run out of it before being approved for SSDI. However another thing people may not know is that with both programs, you definately DO NOT get paid ANYWHERE NEAR what you made while working. You get a percentage of what you made.

        That often means having to find affordable housing at a time when you are least able to handle the stress.

        Also I found out when I became disabled many years ago I had to wait TWO YEARS to get Medicare after I was approved for SSDI. I hope that has changed with ACA. I got COBRA from my last job, but there was NO WAY that I could afford the premiums without my father's help.

        All and all I am grateful for what I do have, but people need to understand that this ISN'T a picnic!

        I take the phrase "Bleeding Heart Liberal" as a compliment...

        by Pixie5 on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 02:00:44 PM PDT

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        •  It's like the voter fraud lie . . . (1+ / 0-)
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          there's probably isolated cases of voter fraud, just like there may be isolated cases of someone who managed to get social security disability when they aren't actually disabled.  But, I strongly doubt that there's enough fraud to justify the scare tactics or to change the laws or the SS program.

          It goes to the idea of scarcity.  If there's a limited amount of resources, people worry there won't be "enough" for them with just the suggestion.  When we rely on the social security check to actually live and breathe, that suggestion sends panic fears through your hear.  But, it's just another lie.

          If you're Mitch McConnell and you choose to make it a priority to build a bridge in your own state, then money is there.  If there's a RW wingnut, there's plenty of money for yet another Benqazi special committee.  

          There's enough money in our government to keep social security solvent for centuries to come . . . as long as the Republicans never get the WH, Senate, and House ever again.  If they do, then all bets are off, and we'd all better find a cozy spot under a bridge to live.

          Yep.  I know what you've been through, because I live it, too.  I'd LOVE to be able to work.  It would be nice for just one month to have the same paycheck I used to earn.

          •  Yes,the party of "fiscal responsibility" my ass! (1+ / 0-)
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            I take the phrase "Bleeding Heart Liberal" as a compliment...

            by Pixie5 on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 05:06:58 PM PDT

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            •  My sister, the misguided republican, said (1+ / 0-)
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              in one of our many political discussions, in an accusatory tone, "democrats just tax and spend."  Gosh, like that was an original observation and not an old talking point.  I said back, "and all the republicans do is borrow and spend, now tell me who is the most responsible!"

              Remember not that long ago when all the RW could do is talk about the deficit?  Well, the deficit is falling so fast that they can't talk about the deficit as a reason to cut SS, Medicaid, and Medicare.  So, the new mantra is fraud.  Voter fraud, individual fraud, disability fraud, and they are all riding in on their white horses to save the government from all us takers.

              I have to wonder when they will start claiming that little old ladies who are 70 years old are faking their age just to get their earned social security.

              In the meantime, the one thing Congress managed to get done lately is to hide their lobbyist freebies and trips from being reported.  Talk about fraud!

    •  As it gets harder to (1+ / 0-)
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      received SS for a disability it becomes easier to get a military disability retirement.   Three in my office get 100% military benefits, one for getting prickly heat, one for getting too fat and one for carpel tunnel.

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