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  •  Where did I see that report (2+ / 0-)
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    thanatokephaloides, MarcKyle64

    I'm going to research this, but I read a report that in the past 5 years, Social Security Disability has SOARED exponentially.  

    How's that happen anyway?  Or, is it even true?  Anyone got something?  I'm not real good on the "net", but will try to find out whazzup on this.

    •  Assume it to be false. (3+ / 0-)
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      Where did I see that report[?]

      I'm going to research this, but I read a report that in the past 5 years, Social Security Disability has SOARED exponentially.  

      How's that happen anyway?  Or, is it even true?  Anyone got something?  I'm not real good on the "net", but will try to find out whazzup on this.

      You should assume it to be false.

      If you cannot find this so-called "report" easily (i.e., it comes up on Google or ixquick within the first page, and within seconds) then, chances are, it's more right-wing nut-job farragoes of lies and disinformation.

      In other words, what gushes 24/7/365 from Fox "News".

      "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

      by thanatokephaloides on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 06:07:23 PM PDT

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      •  It is easily findable (4+ / 0-)
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        Boris49, waiono, MarcKyle64, VClib

        See for example here or here.

        •  And easily debunked here (4+ / 0-)

          http://www.cbpp.org/... Basics: Social Security Disability Insurance  Revised March 14, 2014

          Or you could read this post of mine at Econoblog Angry Bear in 2009:
          http://angrybearblog.com/...

          By the official measure used by the Social Security Trustees the Disability Insurance Trust Fund failed the 'Short Term Actuarial Test' back in 2005. And for years before that projected to run out many years before the Old Age/Survivors Trust Fund. The 2007-2008 recession simply accelerated by a fraction a process that was fully foreseen as early as the 1997 Social Security Report, a time when the combined OASDI program was entering a period of surpluses well in excess of $100 billion a year. (And BTW giving the official defense for Bush Tax Cuts in 2001).

          DI could have been fixed for pennies per week per average worker back in 2005 and should have been. And the breakdown even now puts it in a few nickels per week due to a combination of inaction and economic downturn. But there was no 'trebling', certainly not when compared to the baseline as established in the 1997-2009 Reports. Which isn't to say that ALL of this is just hysteria. Because given a long enough time frame you can find those multiples. As the CBPP piece cited at the outset points out (and then explains):

          "The number of disabled workers has tripled since 1980 and doubled since 1995.  The bulk of that rise stems from four big demographic factors — overall population growth, the aging of the baby boomers into their 50s and 60s (the peak ages for DI receipt), the rise in women’s labor force participation (which means more women now qualify for DI benefits), and the rise in Social Security’s full retirement age (which delays DI beneficiaries’ reclassification as retired workers)."

          Bruce again. Note that none of that involves huge levels of new fraud in recent years. That is just Republican agit-prop. You can make almost any fiscal number 'double' just by playing around with the difference between 'nominal' and 'real'.

          SocSec dot.Defender at gmail.com - founder DK Social Security Defenders Group

          by Bruce Webb on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 12:42:35 AM PDT

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