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  •  Unfortunately the reasons why people believe these (10+ / 0-)

    things is because they have not experienced these things themselves. People on Welfare don't get free cable TV. SNAP benefits are so small that they barely feed people. And most people on disability are not pushing over big boulders while hiking.

    And a big problem is that often you cannot see a disability in the first place. The majority are not in wheelchairs. I had one idiot say to me that if you are not paralyzed then you can work. Most likely some twenty-something who has never experienced hardship. When you are young you fail to think about what it is like when you get older and your body starts to go out on you or you contract a chronic disease. And the fact that to the average person you can look perfectly healthy.

    Four percent of the population is on welfare. FOUR PERCENT, but according to these liars it is a big problem. There are work requirements as well. And no, they do not get free childcare so that they can lounge on the beach!

    The majority of people getting government help are the working poor and those who can't find jobs through no fault of their own.

    I have yet to have any Repub be able to answer the simple question as to how people can find jobs THAT ARE NOT THERE? How does cutting off unemployment insurance magically translate into these people finding jobs?

    Of course the real reason for that is simply that the poor have to be punished for being poor. Because if you don't have any scapegoats then people might actually figure out who REALLY IS RESPONSIBLE for all this misery!

    I take the phrase "Bleeding Heart Liberal" as a compliment...

    by Pixie5 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 05:50:58 PM PDT

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    •  actually, I have a friend that was a partner in a (1+ / 0-)
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      start up 'employee leasing' company.

      He used to spend quite a bit of time using a video camera filming disability cheats. He used to laugh about guys out surfing with "bad" backs.

      Heck, my office manager's husband has had two jobs in the last 8 years. The first one he went off on disability the very first day on the job…that one he bilked for 2 years. The next job he liked(delivering beer) and he kept that for over a year before injuring his back. 4 years disability, finished college, then a cash payout to get him off their books.

      Now he got himself hired by the State as a Corrections officer. I guess he figures if can can get State disability then he's hit the jackpot. His back was miraculously cured.

      yes, there are lots of sad, real cases, but there is quite a bit of fraud as well.

      •  Were any of these people on Social Security (1+ / 0-)
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        disability? Or were they getting them from their jobs, worker's comp?

        That is an important question because the topic is the difficulty of getting government disability.

        If what you are saying is true then how come it takes YEARS for many people to get it? Most people are routinely rejected the first time to discourage people from applying.

        I take the phrase "Bleeding Heart Liberal" as a compliment...

        by Pixie5 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 08:54:29 PM PDT

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        •  the topic is 2 fold (1+ / 0-)
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          yes, there is difficulty in getting SS disability

          My other friend has been going at the feds over 3 years now for his disabled 30 something daughter. She has been mentally challenged all her life.

          Even with the atty it is rough.

          the other topic is fraud. Good fraudsters know the fraud docs and how to work the system.

          The above leasing company involved fraud in workers' comp.

          The point being that there is are a lot of free lunchers out there.

          OTOH, there are many hard workers that loath to miss work for any reason. They tend to want to avoid SSI because they somehow feel ashamed to be on disability when in actuality, they should.

          My ex partner is a great example. 190% disabled according to the VA and he refused an increase from 40% until they took away his driver license.

          •  Thanks for your response... (0+ / 0-)

            I am sorry about the troubles your friend is having with getting help for his daughter. That kind of thing should never happen.

            Yes people who need disability should not be ashamed, this is one of the cruel things that is done in our culture.

            One small correction: SSI and SSDI are two different programs. SSDI is for people who have worked enough to put tax money into it. SSI is for those who have never worked or have too few work credits to qualify. They get significantly less than those on SSDI. Last I heard, $600 or $700 a month. They raise it if a person is in a board and care to cover the increased cost.

            At any rate people often think that those on disability live in the lap of luxury but the truth is far different. I get $1000 a month and yes I did pay into the system. I am grateful for what I have but I am just pointing this out that people really don't get it. I would rather be working than stressing over my finances!

            I take the phrase "Bleeding Heart Liberal" as a compliment...

            by Pixie5 on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 03:18:28 PM PDT

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      •  Please make a difference (0+ / 0-)

        between an employer run disability claim and social security disability.  Employers are more likely to grant a disability to prevent a lawsuit for an on-the-job injury.  

        We've all heard these fake disability claims.  We've all heard about the guy pulling three SNAP benefits and selling them for drugs.  We've all heard these.  

        But, I assert that most of it is something you've "heard" and that you are not in a position to personally know all the facts of the situation.  

        I'm not doubting your story, but it sounds to me like your boss has been doing some complaining in the break room about her erstwhile husband.  I have to wonder just how much you can trust her griping as representing all the facts.  And this husband was not getting social security, which is the subject of this blog.

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