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  •  In simple point of FACT, Jesus never was! (1+ / 0-)
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      ...it seems likely that there was some sort of historical figure, so in that sense Jesus almost certainly did exist.  How different that historical figure was from the Jesus portrayed in the Bible is another matter...

      If Democrats proclaim the the Earth is round and Republicans insist it is flat, we will shortly see a column in the Washington Post claiming the the earth is really a semi-circle.

      by TexasTom on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 11:16:21 AM PDT

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      •  Sorry if there be mis-understanding above. (0+ / 0-)

        My reply was to the poster, "intransit74", on the matter of whether or not Jesus was/is a "Catholic".  And I guess that isn't totally clear.

        Jesus is, for those of who are Christian, " . . . the Only-Begotten Son of God, Begotten of His Father before all worlds,  God of God, Light of Light, True God of True God, being of One Substance with the Father. . . ."  

        When the question arose as to whether or not Jesus was/is God - posited by the Alexandrian Deacon, Arius - the choice of wording in Greek was between "Homousion", meaning same, one,, and "Homoiusion", meaning like, or similar.

        The Council assembled in Nicaea declared for "Homousion".  Which has been the Christian usage ever since, in its Symbolion, or, as it is known throughout the Western/Roman Religion - from the first word in Latin, "Credo" - "The Creed".  However, the Roman Bishop - "Pope" - at the time, named Honorius, chose to insist upon "Homoiusion", thereby making the Roman part of the early Christian Church to be Arian in Faith and Doctrine, which it remained, and taught, for the next 125, or so, years - until some new Pope "infallibly changed his mind", and tried to rejoin Christian faith.

        Bishop, or "Pope", Honorius has been specifically remembered in the ANATHEMAS read throughout Christianity on Orthodoxy Sunday for the ensuing 1500+ years.  And Romanism itself used to so do as well; though that repentance now seems to have disappeared, ever since the time of Hitler's Pope, Pacelli - alias Pius XII.

        Imagine yourself in the coffee-house, with Deacon Arius sitting up on a stool in front, strumming his instrument and singing, "Well, you see, Jesus is God; but not quite" - as the late Archbishop Bartholomew of Blessed Memory used to illustrate the matter.  And you have the position adopted by Rome - which, for Christianity, is, simply, unadulterated HERESY!

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