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  •  But what do they give up for that? (0+ / 0-)

    Keeping the vessels on schedule so that we can bring in more crap from Chinese prison labor camps is of paramount importance.

    The ILWU would have to make major concessions in job security, wages or benefits if they want the right to not work in support of other issues.

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    by Utahrd on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 09:10:08 AM PDT

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    •  Just worrying about "job security" (4+ / 0-)
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      and not looking at the big picture for your whole community is never wise , that thinking helped make unions suck so bad the last 20 years , and is one of the reasons they're in decline , if the carpenters are not going to honor the electricians , etc etc , then the whole system collapses , which is what we have today  

      Another possible option is fighting the arbitrators thru litigation on the issue

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      by Patango on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 12:32:09 PM PDT

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    •  The troll returns. Labor has had to deal with (4+ / 0-)
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      people like you who undercut solidarity for a long time. Your tea kettle is ready. It is apparent that you are on the lookout for labor posts at Daily Kos so you can crap on strikers with the message of management. We get it. Now go back to your hole.

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      by Galtisalie on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 05:30:03 PM PDT

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    •  ILWU contract is expired (4+ / 0-)
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      They are in negotiations operating under an expired contract.  The union agreed to extend the contract on an interim basis thru Friday, which is why the arbitrator had jurisdiction.  The ILWU actually has a lot of leverage to help these truckers and others, since they are not actually under contract again starting Saturday.

      Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

      by benamery21 on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 06:05:51 PM PDT

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      •  Diary (0+ / 0-)
        But an arbitrator quickly ruled that the dockworkers' contract didn't allow them to leave the job in sympathy with the drivers strike. A similar ruling was issued during a 48-hour trucker strike in April.

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        by Patango on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 05:04:21 AM PDT

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        •  The contract (1+ / 0-)
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          is expired.  It has force only because the negotiators say so.

          http://www.ilwu13.com/...

          http://www.shapiro.com/...

          http://www.shapiro.com/...

          "Negotiations between the ILWU and PMA remain ongoing, but on Tuesday both sides issued a joint statement that they would be taking a break between 5 a.m. Tuesday and 5 a.m. Friday, July 11, and that the contract had been extended for ILWU during that time. The only way an arbitrator can step in, like for the case of joining the truckers, is if ILWU is explicitly under contract — that is how the arbitrator was able to call back the workers on Tuesday morning."

          http://www.gazettes.com/...

          Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

          by benamery21 on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 05:44:18 AM PDT

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        •  A little more (1+ / 0-)
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          "The ILWU and PMA negotiators failed to reach a new agreement by the July 1 deadline. The ILWU and PMA said cargo handling would not be interrupted, but the ILWU refused to extend the previous contract while the negotiations continued.

          With no contract in place, the waterfront grievance mechanism, through which either side can request arbitration during a labor dispute, was suspended. Therefore, members of the ILWU have been free to take any job actions they wished or to honor any picket lines in the harbor since July 1.

          However, the ILWU and PMA on Monday announced they had to interrupt the contract negotiations for three days over an unrelated issue. In a strange turn of events, the ILWU on Monday agreed to extend the previous contract for three days."

          http://www.gateway-group.com/...

          Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

          by benamery21 on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 05:54:56 AM PDT

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          •  Thanks benamery21 (0+ / 0-)

            I will speak "in general" , some people  know how complicated these contracts and negotiations can be , I would be a novice at best

            Companies are experts at making these talks go into limbo if that serves them , if they can undermine the unity of organized workers with moves like this , then it needs to be addressed thru contracts , legislation or litigation

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            by Patango on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 10:22:44 AM PDT

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