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  •  It was considered a done deal (68+ / 0-)

    Seriously.  I was talking to my roommate the other day, and we were both stunned that fifty years after Griswold, that this is somehow an issue.  Two whole generations have grown up secure in the knowledge that we have the right to contraception, that we can buy condoms and spermicide in the grocery story (or even in the bathrooms), that we can get IUD's and the shot and the pill.  This should not even be an issue, but thanks to the Dominionists and the Christian Patriarchs, it suddenly is, and I for one hope that this is the wake up call for women.

    This isn't freedom. This is fear - Captain America

    by Ellid on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 10:58:02 AM PDT

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    •  I'm pleased to report that Republicans are (42+ / 0-)

      now responsible for birthing a new generation of feminists. Yeehaw!

      You better brace yourselves for a whole lotta ugly comin' at you from a neverending parade of stupid. - Motormouth Maybelle, Hairspray 2007 -

      by FlamingoGrrl on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 11:55:41 AM PDT

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    •  Yes, exactly, that's part of why (6+ / 0-)

      it was so easy to cover up conservative intent.

      If any Dem tried to expose the conservative intent, the MSM just went "Awwww, a crazy liberal!".

      "What could BPossibly go wrong??" -RLMiller "God is just pretend." - eru

      by nosleep4u on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 04:11:29 PM PDT

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    •  I certainly hope they vote in 2014. (10+ / 0-)

      But frankly, I can't understand how we've gone down the road we're on. First they were against abortion, which I strongly disagree with but I could at least understand some of their point. Then they were extremely against abortion in all imaginable cases, including rape and incest, which I thought was cruel and insane.

      Now they're against birth control, which is crazy because it directly lowers the need for an abortion in the first place in most cases. Meanwhile in the world of reality, all they've done is increase the frequency of abortions--one of the things they claim to hate most.

      It kind of makes you wonder what other insane position they'll come up with next--like requiring women to give birth every menstrual cycle because if an egg didn't get fertilized, that was murder. Or having every woman be fitted with a chastity belt that she must wear all times--unless she's out on a date with them, of course.

      •  Next (4+ / 0-)


        Actually, they'd probably be happier with the ferengi model of female propriety - at home, nude.

      •  Consequences (1+ / 0-)
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        These people believe that if you aren't rich and crooked, there should be consequences for "bad behavior".  Particularly if the "bad behavior" concerns sexy time.  Even if said sexy time was not voluntary.  Because, you know, rape babies.

        Of course, if you are white, male, and/or rich, consequences need not apply.

        To be on the wrong side of Dick Cheney is to be on the right side of history.

        by mbayrob on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 11:48:35 PM PDT

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      •  Birth control (0+ / 0-) a primary issue to only a portion of the population. The overall population is more concerned about economic issues and the class war (i.e., middle class vs. the poor).

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          ties directly into what you claim are not necessarily the primary issue of the overall population.

          The overall population is more concerned about economic issues and the class war (i.e., middle class vs. the poor).
          Taking away BC, or in most cases making it too expensive to purchase if your Ins. Provider does not cover it, will have the effect of dragging both the middle class, and to a larger extent the poor, down economically.
          Lets keep it real, the reason many Women take BC is that they simply don't want to get pregnant but want to be free to have a sex life without worry of becoming pregnant. Many of these Woman may be Pro-Life in as far as they would have a very hard time aborting a booboo but still believe Women should have the Right to choose.
          They don't want pregnancy for a plethora of reasons, they may be working on their college degrees and then want to get established in the workforce. I have seen countless women who have been forced to quit school and or work in order to care for a child they didn't want. The old BS about them being able to prevent pregnancy if they had just been smart enough to take BC is just that, BS. Many couldn't afford it, for others they were taking BC and it failed to work. BC is not and never has been a 100% guarantee that a woman will not get pregnant. Many Women use BC for other reasons than BC. If they develop health issues that could have been prevented by the use of BC but they couldn't afford the BC then they damned sure aren't going to be able to afford the deductibles and Co-Pays associated with those health issues. Or maybe they just don't want to have kids period!
          Having to care for a child as we all know is a huge financial sacrifice and this is why I have never believed one single word that has ever been spewed from a person claiming to be Pro-Life. They are Pro-Fetus and nothing more. Once the  little fuck trophy has been plucked from the Womb, they turn their back on both Mother and Child , in many cases slut shaming her and bitching about the kid being another drain on the Economy.
          No. these Puritans would love nothing better than to be able to control SEX, period. They also know that more little religiously schooled zombies, translates into more money in the coffers of the Church.

          Yes, it is an issue we all share because of the economic issues it raises.  

          "The Liberty of Democracy is not safe if the People tolerate the growth of Private Power to a point where it becomes stronger than their Democratic State itself. That, in it's essence, is Fascism, ownership of Government by an individual or a Group" FDR

          by Kirk Welch on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 01:25:55 PM PDT

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        •  Birth control (1+ / 0-)
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          IS an economic issue! The most fundamental one I can think of.  It affects earning ability, family wealth, being healthy enough to earn a living, the economics of being in the work force (cost of child care, for one), the ability to educate a child so s/he has a better economic future, the uses to which medical resources are expended, etc, etc, etc.  And there would be no need for a class war if birth control were widely and freely distributed and voluntarily used (and my definition of the class war is the 1% vs. the rest of us) because birth control = personal autonomy and the ability to take advantage of a better future.

          Think of it this way:  if you have a peach tree, you will get better peaches if you remove a certain percentage of the tiny, green peaches so the ones that are left to grow have better access to the nutrients the tree provides.  Think of the tiny green ones as eggs that are prevented from being implanted in the womb so the child that does come along (by parental choice) at a later time has more of the mother's and/or family's resources available to it.

      •  Not only requiring birth... (1+ / 0-)
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        every menstrual cycle...but require men to account for EVERY sperm which comes matter by what method. I do mean EVERY matter what the number. You need sperm and egg to do their dance for these Bend Over Party nutjobs better write their law to account for EVERYTHING needed to force her to carry that baby they claim to love so much to term.

        I sounds insane. Actually...compared to the Bend Over Party's message of how pro-fetus they want to be and lord it over the rest of idea isn't really that insane.

      •  The Teen Pregnancy Rate In Colorado Dropped (0+ / 0-)

        40% in 5 years, by handing out contraceptives, & teaching sex-ed, which of course right-wingers are opposed to, because they are apparently completely irrational.

        I think they are opposed to contraceptives & abortion for WHITE WOMEN, but don't care about anyone else.

        Of course, they can't come right out and say so.

      •  Unholy manipulative alliance (0+ / 0-)

        Big money stirs up cultural/religious issues that make wingnuts froth and go to the polls in gerrymandered districts. But those issues can never be resolved because they're in a minority  nationally.
        Result- just enough wingnut republicans get elected so that governance is hamstrung, confirming the tenet that government is ineffective, which it is, relatively, if a large and vocal minority are sabotaging it.
        Plus effective regulation and control of the hyper rich is blocked, allowing that part of the party to achieve their goals of less government controls, more regressive taxation and more power.
        Ends with pitchforks. Possibly Dark Ages or theocracy.  

        If not us, who? If not now, when?

        by FamilyDocForDean on Fri Jul 11, 2014 at 11:40:41 AM PDT

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