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  •  All countries spy on all countries (2+ / 0-)
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    GoGoGoEverton, bywaterbob

    Well, to the extent that they need to and can, at least. Both government and industrial spying (which are not entirely distinct). This is not to justify it, just point it out. Always has been so, likely always will be so. We just got caught. Or, more likely, we got called out, in retribution for our own spying on German officials. Actions have consequences, it seems. Schadenfreude, ya?

    "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

    by kovie on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 07:35:20 AM PDT

    •  But it has limits as to what (0+ / 0-)

      governments are willing to accept as routine. The US has clearly exceed Germany's level of tolerance.

      •  This isn't about that though (0+ / 0-)

        This is almost certainly about payback for spying on Merkel (or, more likely, about that coming to light publicly) and the whole Snowden affair. This is about saving face and slapping wrists, nothing more. No way will one of the US's most important allies risk its relationship with the US by doing more. Especially given that the EU hasn't done jack shit to help Syrians.

        "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

        by kovie on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 02:09:20 PM PDT

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    •  Its possible that the blogosphere may (2+ / 0-)
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      joe from Lowell, kovie

      next discover that there are some people selling their bodies for money.

      There ain't nothin' new under the sun.

      My Great Aunt Mary, who lived to be 107, responded to being told some nasty gossip about a family member by saying that it was impossible to spend a hundred years in a small Wisconsin town without becoming utterly inured to every form of human sexuality and depravity.

      Here's my take on it - the revolution will not be blogged, it has to be slogged. - Deoliver47

      by OIL GUY on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 07:59:02 AM PDT

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