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  •  Well, since it generated discussion, (5+ / 0-)

    you can't call it a 'non-starter', now, can you? ;)

    Look, I know we can agree that 'proof by analogy is fraud'.

    And 'clearing the decks' is an important part of this discussion. So I think you have initiated something really important here. Good for you for doing this!

    "only Silencio could go to China, amirite?" :D

    •  I can run with your analogy to language (4+ / 0-)

      There are seven billion people on this planet making decisions in 4000 some odd languages.

      Its not unreasonable to suggest that language to some degree reflects culture and the behavior considered normal and heterosexual in different cultures ranges widely.

      For example men in dresses holding hands, and caressing eachother while they talk, kissing and painting their faces and otherwise behaving in a manner we might consider effeminate is typical for young warriors in some tribes.

      The choice appears to evolve from mothers painting babies and dressing them and teaching them to be elaborately affectionate with one another that's just how they grow up

      "la vida no vale nada un lugar solita" "The Limits of Control Jim Jarmusch

      by rktect on Wed Jul 16, 2014 at 05:11:47 AM PDT

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      •  Recc'd for OMO pic (2+ / 0-)
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        serendipityisabitch, Silencio

        This is the most aesthetically developed visual culture in the world, imho. Sorry for the OT, but do folks know their habitat is in danger of being stripped from them to grow ethanol from sugar cane?

        As for the questions raised in this diary, they are indeed thorny and loaded ones, most easily answered with still more questions.

         A teacher of cranio-sacral therapy, Hugh Milne once told me that the less good sex a person got, the more they were likely to be sticking their long noses into others' bedrooms and making censorious judgements.

        It rang true then, 16 years ago, and evidence keeps piling up in favor. If the repug show-world is straight vanilla sex with one's lifetime, opposite gender companion, oops spouse, then why are so many of their most vociferous blowhard fans of that lifestyle getting caught with their dicks in the 'wrong' places?

        Seeing how naturally omnisexual the animal kingdom can be suggests to me that we are all bisexual by birth, but strong conditioning plays a part in how stuck the closet door is jammed.

        The other topic that comes to mind is bisexuality and monogamy, as someone posted upthread. Especially since the HIV years, many women in relationship may be fine with the idea of their partner being able to swing both ways, but they are deeply (and understandably) disturbed by their partner acting out for reasons of sexual hygiene and infection risk factors. They wouldn't want them going off the reservation with someone of either gender.

        And them's my profound thoughts upon this hoary matter!

        Thanks for starting an interesting discussion, silencio!

        why? just kos..... *just cause*

        by melo on Thu Jul 17, 2014 at 02:17:04 AM PDT

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        •  HIV was more of a constraint in the eighties (0+ / 0-)

          People today assume they can get tested and use protection and be safe having consensual sex in most places but I suppose there are still enough people getting the disease from rape, forced marital congress with HIV positive males, people who are too impaired to check their partners have been recently tested and those who cave to the claim that condoms dull the sensation to put the lie to that.

          "la vida no vale nada un lugar solita" "The Limits of Control Jim Jarmusch

          by rktect on Thu Jul 17, 2014 at 03:01:45 AM PDT

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