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  •  My views here are this. (0+ / 0-)

    On Ukraine, you have a clear example of a nation seeking a chance at a better future without interference from Russia. I know who to support here and whom not. The references to "Banderites" are nothing less than Russian propaganda which aims to rip open historical wounds.

    On Syria, it was a legitimate uprising at first, but it became overtaken by Islamists as it wore on. IMO this is a clear case of the West having failed to do anything at mass atrocities initially, and the deleterious consequences that followed.

    On Israel/Palestine, I support a two-state solution which will give Palestinians their state, with guarantees that the new Palestine will respect democracy, human rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion etc. I recognize Israel's right to defend itself, but with certain limits - the last week's operation certainly goes too far for me.

    Where does this place me?

    •  That's nice, but the question was, (0+ / 0-)
      Where, and why, are you a hippocrite on the philosophy of R2P?
      To knock it down into it's simplistic terms.

      So, for example, why is it okay for Poroshenko to attack and Ukrainians but not okay for Yanukovich to kill Ukrainians?

      •  They are not movement Progressives. (0+ / 0-)
        why is it okay for Poroshenko to attack and Ukrainians but not okay for Yanukovich to kill Ukrainians?
        Progressives wouldn't militarily attack or defend anybody.

        They avoid hypocrisy by never accepting the 'responsibility' part.

        Others accept the formulation 'R2P our interests', but often fail to elucidate the interest coherently.  

    •  You know? (0+ / 0-)

      Here's a piece from that well-known bunch of Russky propaganda stooges, the BBC.

      Taking John Kerry's word for how things are isn't "knowing".  It's "believing".

      Pay no attention to the upward redistribution of wealth!

      by ActivistGuy on Sun Jul 13, 2014 at 11:43:26 PM PDT

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