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  •  I feel it. Here's what I mean. (1+ / 0-)
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    RabbleON

    When I see someone who doesn't look like me, but who is an American, I believe that we share something important.

    If you live in, say, New York, do you feel that being a New Yorker is an actual thing? If so, that's what I'm talking about when talking about a sense of being an American. That's civic nationalism (again, don't use the term if you don't like it, that's no problem for me).

    •  Hmm, I see what you're saying. (1+ / 0-)
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      Ian Reifowitz

      But I do feel (and I admit it's more of a feeling than a full rebuttal of what you're arguing) that municipalities are more of a "real" community than the more abstract nation.  I suppose people generally have a hierarchy of community, and in mine the nation-state is the weakest player.  Cities and towns offer a physical concrete community that binds us together in ways we probably don't even think about much.  Globally, we are also bound together by a common humanity, though this link is apparently too weak presently to get us to stop fighting each other.

      Stable nations are generally bound by constitutions, education systems, national media, and laws.  These are certainly important things, but we could (in theory) have these things at the global level.  I don't like the idea of propping up what I see as artificial divisions, but I understand the context in which you are using the word nationalism. I have no problem with progressives advancing their agenda in that way, but I see a progressive national agenda as a medium term goal on the way to an international/global agenda.

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