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  •  If we had robust funding at the NIH (8+ / 0-)

    and the NIH had true independence from Big Pharma, the current state of American medical research would more closely match that of the rest of the world.

    The following diary is not conspiracy theory, it is fact

    Thousands of toddlers are being medicated for A.D.H.D. with stimulants

    and the only possible explanation is that Big Pharma has WAY too much influence over American medical research.

    The Wahls Protocol follows a high-ketogenic diet similar to diets used to treat epilepsy for treatment of MS.  It has had remarkable results so far, and I understand that is anecdata, but the only thing stopping the clinical trials from proceeding quicker is lack of funding.

    •  Big pharma!! Scary! (2+ / 0-)
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      •  Toddlers on amphetamines is pretty scary nt. (3+ / 0-)
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        •  Unless, of course, it works (1+ / 0-)
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          Ritalin has been prescribed, maybe over-prescribed for many years. Supposedly, it works. My nephew got it for a while - he was a difficult kid who's leading a productive, happy life 25 years later.

          Other therapies, that are pure, unadulterated BS like Energy Medicine need to be viewed as show-me and I'll fund it. Otherwise they are a waste of time and money, not to mention time that a patient would spend away from western medicine, not receiving treatment that could help.

          I'm not opposed to spending other peoples' money to test alternative therapies - some of them. I'm also not opposed to people seeking treatment in various forms of therapy. Some stuff may actually work but much of it depends upon time and the placebo effect.

          Every human being has paid the earth to grow up. Most people don’t grow up. And you find out what it costs us to love and to lose, to dare and to fail. And maybe even more, to succeed. What it costs, in truth.—Maya Angelou

          by TerryDarc on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 09:01:50 AM PDT

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          •  Was your nephew two years old when on it? (2+ / 0-)
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            ADHD cannot be screened for in a toddler, because for a toddler, the symptoms of ADHD are normal toddler behavior.

            A decent clinical trial has placebo controls.

            There are many small trial alternative treatments that have passed the first hurdles and achieved significance over placebo that need to go on to larger clinical trials.

            My tax dollars go to a lot of things that I don't like, but at least in this case savings can be achieved if healthcare costs are decreased.

            •  I don't remember but I do remember (0+ / 0-)

              seriously questioning his mother, my sister on the need for Ritalin. I think more like age 6 now that I think of it. I'm certainly not defending Ritalin's use.

              My wife, kid and I pretty much don't do any sort of meds for chronic conditions. Just doesn't seem necessary and I avoid the opportunity to take them whenever possible. My wife's thyroid meds are the only exception and very necessary.

              I'm all for exploring all reasonable treatments (not involving magical thinking): herbs, acupuncture, vitamins, etc.

              Every human being has paid the earth to grow up. Most people don’t grow up. And you find out what it costs us to love and to lose, to dare and to fail. And maybe even more, to succeed. What it costs, in truth.—Maya Angelou

              by TerryDarc on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 11:39:05 AM PDT

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    •  ketogenic diets (5+ / 0-)

      can also reverse Diabetes 2, lower blood pressure and reduce fatty liver disease now growing to epidemic proportions in this country. But you wouldn't know that by the amount of statins and metformin perscribed without so  much as a comment on diet beyond "eat less, exercise more," a perscription that has not been effective for most, but one the nutritional and medical community cleaves to despite the ever rising evidence it's not working.

      For a disease like MS I understand the fear of walking away from pharmaceutical solutions. I have a friend with the disease, and these medications have greatly slowed the progression and given her many more good years.

      However, I do agree that culture is  too influenced by Big Pharma, as is our medical community, and our nutritional industry.    

      "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

      by StellaRay on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 08:12:04 AM PDT

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      •  Or maybe the disease would have slowed on its own (0+ / 0-)

        You don't know. I don't know.

        The solution is testing. Blind testing or at a minimum controlled testing with people divided up into groups and different therapies tried.

        Trouble is, those people want results and getting them to stick with a therapy long enough to do go testing is an issue.

        Every human being has paid the earth to grow up. Most people don’t grow up. And you find out what it costs us to love and to lose, to dare and to fail. And maybe even more, to succeed. What it costs, in truth.—Maya Angelou

        by TerryDarc on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 09:04:44 AM PDT

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    •  If we had robust finding at the NIH.... the rest (1+ / 0-)
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      of your point would be moot.  When NIH is well funded, it can proceed with effective science, which, by definition, is subject to transparent, peer review.

      •   no, the rest of my point is valid (0+ / 0-)

        If the NIH only studies patentable pharmaceuticals, even if it is well-funded, real science will not happen.  It's like looking for a lost dime under the streetlamp because the light is better there.  If alternative treatments are never studied, then science is the poorer for it, and we will be forever insulted with "lack of proof" retorts when it has never been studied in the first place.

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