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  •  What religious people don't understand (5+ / 0-)

    Is that Atheists are not a monolithic bloc of philosophy or ideology. In fact, I reject the idea that most Atheists believe Fundies speak for all religions. Fundies do represent you, however. Whether you like it or not, theirs are the loudest voices and that's some reality to smoke in your pipe.

    Then there's your attack on vaccinations.... this is the epitome of what religious zealotry is all about. You make sweeping charges and to support them, all you do is attack people who are pro vaccination. Nobody likes for profit healthcare less than I do. You can believe that or not, as makes you comfortable but the relevant fact is that I believe it. But not everything is done at the expense of the patient and for the profit of big pharma. Vaccination became the norm because the world of 100 years ago was a world with an enormous infant mortality rate and of periodic plagues that wiped out millions. This was all before the current system of greedy doctors, feeding greedy pharma, feeding greedy for profit insurers.

    In summary, then; your premise is mistaken. Your putting all Atheists into one mindset is just as wrong as what you're accusing Atheists of and your comparing medicine, (specifically belief in vaccination, which is supported by overwhelming physical evidence) to religious faith is absurd and I can't believe I wasted so much time on this.

    "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for a real Republican every time." Harry Truman

    by MargaretPOA on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 03:58:24 AM PDT

    •  either you did not read this diary (1+ / 0-)
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      SaraBeth

      or else my writing is MUCH more unclear than I'd hoped.

      As discussed, this diary was specifically written in response to what I have been hearing from the many atheists in my circle of friends as well as in the media.  And you are right, the fundies are indeed the loudest voice, which is perhaps why they have succeeded in fooling so many people.

      With regard to vaccinations, I regret having brought that up because the point really did NOT get across and in fact it provoked the very knee-jerk dogmatic responses such as yours (and several other people), which I had predicted. Ironically, you have proved my point in so far as merely stating that a particular vaccine, or a few of them, have failed to live up to their hoped-for safety and effectiveness qualifies as "anti-vaxxer" heresy.  

      The medical community acknowledges that the pertussis vaccine isn't working very well and a better vaccine is needed.  That does not mean ALL vaccines are bad and I didn't say they were.  I am saying that we should not have blind faith in them, particularly when the data suggests otherwise, as it does in the case of pertussis.  

      You might want to read that paragraph again.  But, since you are not the only person who failed to understand it, clearly I am to blame for the writing not being more clear.  So, thanks for your feedback.

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