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  •  An unusual number of errors in one comment. (6+ / 0-)

    1) Jews have lived in an area called Palestine for millennia; an almost unbroken presence.
    2) Jews gained a homeland by a vote of the United Nations (2/3's in favor) after Britain relinquished its mandate.
    3) It took four wars for the Jews to maintain their right to a homeland; wars instigated by five surrounding Arab nations.
    4) To call Jewish/Israeli culture "neither the most pervasive nor the most advanced" is not only in error but lacks any sense of history.

    I could go on, but I have the feeling I'm wasting my time talking to a brick wall.

    •  Great... just great (3+ / 0-)
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      I've heard some bogus BS in my time, but you take the prize. Not only are you totally unaware of of the actual history of the place, but you have the gall to accuse this man's story of lacking "any sense of history". Your response is typical of the Israel-biased, Judeo-Christian, 6th grade civics class understanding of the issue that most Americans possess.

      1.  The Jews have lived in Palestine for millennia:
      So... what about the people who had already lived there for millennia before the Jews arrived? Don't they have an equal claim to the territory?

      2.  The Jews gained a homeland by yada yada...
      What right did Britain or the UN have to give the territory to anyone? The Saudi royal family was so incensed that they threatened cutting off oil to the west. Abdulaziz told Truman that the Palestinians were not Nazis. If the west was going to give the Jews some land, why don't they just give them a piece of Germany? Prior to WWII, there were more Jews in Germany and Poland than in Palestine anyway.

      3. Right... all conflicts between the Arabs and the Jews were instigated by the Muslims. The laws that prevented anyone in Israel from publishing anything negative about their history ended a couple of decades ago. I suggest you search on DKos for information on books published about that era, or at least take a trip to your local library. No one in Israel would ever use the word holocaust to describe anyone elses fate, but the phrase "ethnic cleansing" certainly applies to what happened to hundred of thousands of Palestinians during that time. Try reading some books about Lydda And Ramle and how 50 to 70 thousand Palestinians were driven out of an area the UN had assigned as part of the Palestinian homeland. And how about that little issue of when Ben Gurion was asked about what to do with the Palestinians in the neighborhood of the airport and train station he responded with the wave of a hand and instructed the Israeli army to kill them all if necessary.

      4.  Ohhh come on. Jewish culture and traditions are sooooo pervasive? As compared to Babylonian/Sumerian/Persian history? As compared to Egyptian culture and history? As compared to Greek or Roman culture and history? As compared to Ottoman culture and history? All of those cultures controlled that area at one time or another, and I think carry a bit more weight when it comes to influence on the west.

      I could go on, but you're so obviously brain washed by 6 decades of pro-Israel propaganda, that the truth can never enter that fact-free universe.

      In their eyes there's something lacking; what they need's a damn good whacking.

      by Mad City 67 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 05:08:45 PM PDT

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      •  How do you argue with a brick wall? (1+ / 0-)
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        JNEREBEL

        You don't. I standby every one of my points based on historical fact.

        •  Rave on (0+ / 0-)

          The late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but no one is entitled to their own facts. Like so many knee jerk pro-Israel liberals, you sit there with your fingers in your ears singing la-la-la-la because you simply don't want to hear anything that contradicts your fairytale version of events. Moreover, trolling someone who obviously has a more complex and nuanced  understanding of the issues does not make your case. And no, neither does repeating "That's my story and I'm stickin' to it."

          In their eyes there's something lacking; what they need's a damn good whacking.

          by Mad City 67 on Wed Jul 16, 2014 at 06:45:25 AM PDT

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