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  •  Dishonest? Really? (0+ / 0-)

    Please point out exactly what statements I made that were not accurate and factual? How would you suggest Israel respond to missiles and rockets being fired into her major cities. How would the US or any other nation respond? Are they supposed to sit around and sing Kumbayah?

    •  Have a really special night. (11+ / 0-)

      palestine photo: Palestine 371111685_7f2da83a63.jpg

      “If there is no justice for the people, may there be no peace for the government.”

      by MrJayTee on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 06:57:56 PM PDT

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      •  Too bad Hamas is trying to bomb it... (1+ / 0-)
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        Yes, I've visited, it's beautiful. Too bad Hamas is currently firing missiles at Jerusalem

        •  Too bad Israel isn't letting medicine (5+ / 2-)

          And other supplies in. Can you imagine the hospitals trying to save lives with limited supplies?  
          And you know damned well Hamas doesn't haves chance of destroying Israel like they have done to Palestine.
          And why does Israel get to say that they can't leave their open air prison?  They bombed a ship today full ofpeople trying to flee to safety.
          Amd even 'if' Hamas is hiding behind civilians, have you no compassion for the kids who aren't involved in the politics?  
          They lose their parents and the houses.
          One would think after what the Jewish people suffered underHitler, they would have some compassion. Instead,a Twitter is full of young girls stating the same things the Nazis said about the Jews.

          http://mondoweiss.net/...

          "Americans don't understand that terrorists cannot take away habeas corpus, the Bill of Rights, or the Constitution. Terrorists are not anything like the threat that we face from our own government in the name of fighting terrorism."

          by snoopydawg on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:31:36 PM PDT

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    •  You could broaden your search to find answers (3+ / 0-)
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      to those questions. Here's one of many places you could look: The Jewish Voice for Peace, and this blog entry: The roots of the rising violence

      Our unshakeable belief in justice - as Jews and as human beings - compels us to acknowledge that the root of this violence lies in the Israeli government’s commitment to occupation over the well-being of Palestinians or Israelis. Where our leaders have so thoroughly refused that truth, it is our responsibility to hold it up.
      Your questions imply the current disastrous situation was inevitable.  Such a suggestion infers lack of imagination, moral authority, and a sense of justice; qualities lacking in Israeli and Palestinian leaders so far. If only those leaders would heed the teachings of peace and justice organizations.
    •  Your unwillingness to admit (8+ / 0-)

      that there's a whole history of violence that took place before Hamas lobbed a single rocket, your unwillingness to admit that Israel has ever done anything to wrong the Palestinian people, anything they might be legitimately resentful about, makes it pointless to converse with you on this topic any further.

      You're like a big, strong adult who knocked a kid off his bike and is pissed off that the kid is crying and punching you in the leg. So the kid is punching you. If he can't really hurt you, you do not have the right to smack him across the face.

      "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is the first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk. Every state is totalitarian at heart; there are no ends to the cruelty it will go to to protect itself." -- Ian McDonald

      by Geenius at Wrok on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 08:09:06 PM PDT

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      •  It's actually quite simple. (2+ / 0-)
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        If Hamas would stop firing missiles into Israel, and stop tunneling under the border, and stop all terrorist problems and kidnapping, Israel would stop immediately. Gaza had tremendous potential in 2005 when Israel withdrew..hotels, a shopping mall, greenhouses, hundreds of millions in international aid. All pissed away when Hamas overthrew the PA in a bloody coup, and started importing missiles and creating tunnels and bunkers. If that aid had been spent on developing the economy, and stopped the violence, the borders would open, trade and tourism would flow. But then, they wouldn't have a reason to exist, so we'll never see it happen.

    •  Because the Golda Mier quote (1+ / 0-)
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      isn't racist at all.

      No War but Class War

      by AoT on Wed Jul 16, 2014 at 07:00:41 AM PDT

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