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  •  You may get your wish. (4+ / 0-)
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    Timaeus, Brecht, Tonedevil, beltane

    But with only 29 comments so far, each nastier and more poisonous than the last, it might take a bit of time. This one is going the Karmafish route.

    Maybe better to get a lawn chair and some popcorn and watch the flame-out.

    And registered over 4 years ago...I wonder what motivated this individual to come out now?

    “If there is no justice for the people, may there be no peace for the government.”

    by MrJayTee on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 09:30:40 PM PDT

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    •  Registered an account (5+ / 0-)

      to be used at a later time. These people are either exceptionally inept at making the case for Israeli actions or exceptionally skilled at portraying Israel's supporters as a bunch of ghouls. Take your pick.

    •  Why I had to speak up. (1+ / 1-)
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      Richard Villiers

      I've followed DailyKos for years, but for domestic issues. I saw the falsehoods being spread here about this topic, and felt the urge to speak up, rather than just lurking, that's all.

      I've spoken only facts here. But like many right wingers, those facts don't seem to fit into your worldview so you try to deny they exist, and attack me personally. For the record, I voted for Obama twice, but after seeing how he's handled this situation, I'm really starting to regret it. I honestly can't understand the virulent hatred I'm seeing from my fellow dems here...the one sided viewpoints, the complete lack of understanding. No better than  Tea Party fanatics, who push worldview over hard facts.

      No worries, I'm done for now. I've had all the anti-Semitic bile and hatred I can tolerate. You guys can keep living in your little dream world. Just ask yourself...if missiles were raining down on your cities and home, what would YOU do? How would you react?

      •  Actually, on second thought, please keep talking. (6+ / 0-)

        You're really helping out with outreach here on DailyKos. Palestinian outreach, I mean ; )

        The easily offended deserve to be easily offended.--God

        by Flyswatterbanjo on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:58:55 PM PDT

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      •  Awww, poor baby. (1+ / 0-)
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        Timaeus

        Have a donut;  that'll make it feel better.

        Strengthen the Senate! ROCK THE HOUSE!

        by mwm341 on Wed Jul 16, 2014 at 05:41:14 AM PDT

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      •  You made a mistake here by defaulting to the (5+ / 0-)

        "you're all a bunch of anti-semites" chestnut. That is the last defense of a dying argument.

        What you are seeing here are mostly people who historically defended and backed Israel and who are appalled with what it has been morphing into over the last whatever number of years.

        You have not only spoken facts because you have not looked at any of the facts on the Palestinians' side.

        YOU have learned nothing.

        •  Palestinian facts (0+ / 0-)

          It's really quite simple. They kidnapped and murdered 3 kids, and have been firing missiles into Israeli territory. If they hand over the murderers and stop firing missiles, they won't get bombed.

          Now, the larger issue is really about the "blockade", the restriction and inspection of all material coming into Gaza. If they didn't have a proven track record of building and importing thousands of missiles, home made mortars...if they used all that concrete and steel to build roads, schools, and other economic structures rather than hardened bunkers, then the blockade would be lifted.

          Ask yourself, what benefit is there to firing missiles on Israel? The ONLY rational benefit is to provoke a response, and Palestinian Arab casualties...to show that the "struggle" against the "oppressor" goes on while the Hamas leadership sits in their plush Quatari hotel room eating hors d'oeuvres, while counting their millions. But hey, don't take my word for it, just check out Egyptian TV!

          http://youtu.be/...

          •  "THEY" kidnapped and murdered? (2+ / 0-)
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            My God, what an racist bag of garbage.

            Begone you toxic racist ass.

            “If there is no justice for the people, may there be no peace for the government.”

            by MrJayTee on Wed Jul 16, 2014 at 08:37:30 AM PDT

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            •  They? To be specific, Hamas (0+ / 0-)

              What's racist about the truth? Who the fuck do you think kidnapped and murdered those poor kids?

              At least the Israeli radical scum who murdered that Palestinian child will be brought to justice. What's the difference? The people of Israel mostly expressed sorry, grief and a desire for justice. Meanwhile, Hamas celebrated the murder of the Israeli kids, and fired rockets immediately after the bodies were found.

              Fundamentally, the I-P conflict boils down to this. Israel wants to be left the fuck alone. Palestinian Arabs want to destroy Israel, genocide their people, and push them into the sea. Don't take my word for it? Listen to their fricking tv and radio stations! The ones in Arabic, that they know the western media won't follow.

    •  Karmafish? Was s/he anything like "Keith Moon"? (3+ / 0-)
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      The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war. ♥ ♥ ♥ Forget Neo — The One is Minori Urakawa

      by lotlizard on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 11:06:35 PM PDT

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    •  Let him talk. It is helping many people hone their (1+ / 0-)
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      debate skills.

      •  There is a difference between a position in a (2+ / 0-)
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        AoT, Timaeus

        Debate and a hail of racist garbage.

        This one needs an express ride back into the shitter.

        “If there is no justice for the people, may there be no peace for the government.”

        by MrJayTee on Wed Jul 16, 2014 at 08:39:09 AM PDT

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