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  •  Who? (0+ / 0-)

    If you're referring to the 2016 presidential election, the Dem candidate will, of course, be VP Joe Biden. H. Clinton is simply marketing a book, and the Dem Party knows that she would have no chance against Biden, much less in the election for president. While (weirdly) heavily promoted in the media marketed to libs, I think most voters are aware of Clinton's long record of support for the right-wing agenda (for NAFTA before she was against it, a solid war-hawk, etc., etc.).  The masses who voted for Obama in hopes that he could launch a legit public discussion about our poverty crisis have been completely alienated by the Democrats ever since, and this will have a big impact on the 2016 elections.

    •  I don't think you're grasping this (0+ / 0-)

      Your numbers are just off.  You're obviously projecting personal opinions and perspective onto larger populations that don't exist.  When you say "The Dem party" you're talking about a small minority of Democrats who have somehow come to represent the whole party for you. I  don't know of anyone in the party, actually, who claims what your "Dem party" believes.  

      The "most voters" must also be based on something personal and not the actual polling numbers.  If you want to look at the country as a whole, "most people" list Clinton as being quite liberal and even among Democrats it's only a minority who would object to this classification.  Maybe you're imagining dkos to be representative of the larger population?

      When truth is only a matter of opinion, advantage goes to the liars.

      by Sun dog on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 06:57:47 AM PDT

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      •  Perception vs Reality (0+ / 0-)

        I agree that most people would list Hillary as being very liberal - that is one of the major successes of Fox News and talk radio. They have defined her as the epitome of ivory-tower, elite, out-of-touch with "Real America" liberalism.

        However, this perception is not in touch with reality. When you vote for the Iraq War, the Patriot Act,support the death penalty and three-strikes laws, and then retire to give six-figure speeches to Goldman Sachs executives, it's hard to seriously consider your actions "liberal."

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