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  •  Palestinians never took it from the Jews. (3+ / 0-)
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    The Jewish Kingdoms of the Middle East, as they were conquered and revolted, by various and sundry Empire, like the Romans and the Babalonians, had their elites taken into exile and slavery.

    The Jews who remained in the Jewish Kingdoms, gradually converted to a new Jewish Religion, Christianity, converted several Jewish Kingdoms, like Hebron, Judaea, Palestine and Ethiopia, into Christian Kingdoms. Those Kingdoms went to war against the few remaining Jewish Kingdoms , when those Kingdoms mistreated their own Christian minorities.

    The last Jewish King in the Middle East, was Yusef As'ar Yath,ar of Medina, an Arab.

    Meanwhile, in Babalon, losing converts from their community to the Zoasterans and the Christians, the Rabbi's of Babalon, started writing what would become the Torah and the Talmud, creating a creation myth and codifying a system of religion and ethnicity that would prevent such conversions.

    As Christianity became a State Religion, and became codified and enshrined the inequities of The State, the Palestinian Christians of Petra, with input from the Red Sea Gnostics, gradually created a new religion. Arab traders to Petra converted to this new religion, carried it out into the desert where it found fertile roots.  In the desert, this new religion created tribal Islamic kingdoms, where in the old Jewish Kingdoms, now Christian, it only created converts.

    The Palestinians are the Jews that remained.

    •  And...? (0+ / 0-)

      Voting is the means by which the public is distracted from the realities of power and its exercise.

      by Anne Elk on Thu Jul 17, 2014 at 11:18:51 AM PDT

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      •  Did you mean, "and what happened next?" (3+ / 0-)
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        Ray Blake, jqb, offgrid

        The Islamic Tribal Kingdoms conquered the Christian Kingdoms. Many of the Christians and Jews  converted to Islam.

        Hassan, the 4th Caliph of Jerusalem's great, great, great Grandfather was born in Jerusalem, and his religion was Judaism, his great, great Grandfather, was born in Jerusalem, and converted to Christianity. His great Grandfather was born in Jerusalem, and was a Christian, his Grandfather, was born in Jerusalem, and converted to Islam.

        When the Crusades hit the region, many of the Inhabitants converted back from Islam, to Christianity,

        And then when the Crusades failed, they converted back to Islam.

        When the most recent Invaders arrived, they arrived with a religious/political and economic system that prevented conversion and integration of the regional population.

        •  Not exactly. (2+ / 0-)
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          I mean, so what. Politics is now. Politics is people living together. Remember what Marx said: The traditions of all the dead generations weigh upon the minds of the living like a nightmare. This is all very interesting as history, but it just doesn't help with the problem of how people see themselves today, what identity they have today. I agree that the history of this part of the world is a great sloshing about, but that doesn't help us very much; in fact, it is devotion to such legacies that are very much part of the problem. If the palestinians and jews could see themselves as essentially one people, that'd be just great, but they won't.

          Voting is the means by which the public is distracted from the realities of power and its exercise.

          by Anne Elk on Thu Jul 17, 2014 at 12:02:33 PM PDT

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          •  Much of the history and hostility (3+ / 0-)
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            jqb, notagain, offgrid

            Of the region is rooted in false narratives of conquest and invasion.

            Much of the actual history is rooted in religion and conversion.

            Three of the major religions in the world, were all started, in a little 100 square mile grid in Palestine, all in response to the existing institutionalized injustice at the time.

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