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  •  Thanks for the important diary. (2+ / 0-)
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    politicjock, jan4insight

    I have been saying this for years. The biggest difference is that the Palestinians have not succumbed to a plague of small pox and alcohol abuse.

    Btw, the map is all anyone needs to see to understand the truth of the situation. It also explains the lack of peace. Smaller and more isolated parcels of land keep being offered.

    •  That's my point exactly (2+ / 0-)
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      too many people, jan4insight

      A map is worth a thousand words and that's why you don't see them in the establishment media. Great point about smallpox. I guess, today's analogy to that would be white phosphorous.

      •  Not even remotely close (0+ / 0-)

        White phosphorus isn't contagious, and can't be carried thousands of miles from its point of origin, spreading infection in outgoing waves.

        Smallpox did exactly that, decapitating the Inca Empire years before the first white men crossed the border.

        You could look it up, instead of grabbing for easy, obvious and WRONG analogies.

        If it's
        Not your body,
        Then it's
        Not your choice
        And it's
        None of your damn business!

        by TheOtherMaven on Thu Jul 17, 2014 at 04:58:13 PM PDT

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        •  What about depleted uranium? (1+ / 0-)
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          jan4insight

          Would that analogy be more to your liking?

          •  Nope, basically same problem (1+ / 0-)
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            politicjock

            It doesn't travel thousands of miles either.

            Actual radioactive fallout...maybe. But you still miss the insane contagion factor.

            If it's
            Not your body,
            Then it's
            Not your choice
            And it's
            None of your damn business!

            by TheOtherMaven on Thu Jul 17, 2014 at 05:51:04 PM PDT

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            •  Point taken (0+ / 0-)

              But there is an important difference between the two: 1) the European settlers had no premeditated knowledge of the smallpox factor. 1) The Israeli government – and the US government, since it had used both white phosphorus and depleted uranium in Iraq – willingly used weapons they knew were going to have deleterious effects for generations to come. So, here there is a premeditation that wasn't there with European colonists.

              •  The FIRST settlers didn't know (0+ / 0-)

                IIRC, the Conquistadores didn't even know there was smallpox among them until someone's slave came down with it.

                But eventually you get to Gen. Amherst and Col. Bouquet (probably pronounced "bucket") discussing the feasibility of turning smallpox loose on the "savages" during the Pontiac rebellion (1763–1766). We don't know if they decided the cons outweighed the pros - several drawbacks were discussed in the letter exchange - but by then smallpox had already gotten loose spontaneously around Fort Pitt (there was a siege on, and sieges have historically been a breeding ground for all sorts of nasty epidemics).

                Ever since, there has been "anecdata" about "deliberate" smallpox infliction, usually involving surplus US Army blankets and official malfeasance. (There is no documentary evidence, but one can never completely rule out spontaneous acts of individual malice - or stupidity and greed.)

                Since smallpox has been "eradicated", we have begun to forget just how nasty and virulent an organism it was. (It was SO nasty, people were willing to DELIBERATELY GET SICK with "attenuated" smallpox - and later with cowpox - in order to become immune to the "wild" form.)

                If it's
                Not your body,
                Then it's
                Not your choice
                And it's
                None of your damn business!

                by TheOtherMaven on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 08:03:06 AM PDT

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