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  •  "A trained operator would know it was...civilian?" (2+ / 0-)
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    cotterperson, G2geek

    Can you go a little more into this?

    How?

    Are you describing the training that regular military personnel receive for the procedures they use? Would it possible for some separatist to have been trained up quickly enough to fire it as a plane, without getting the rest of the training in the procedures for identifying the target?

    Or is there something about this particular AA unit that would make anyone using it to shoot down the plan necessarily learn that information?

    Art is the handmaid of human good.

    by joe from Lowell on Thu Jul 17, 2014 at 03:46:59 PM PDT

    •  BUK is an integrated system (7+ / 0-)

      But can be fired discretely

      Usually it is plugged into radar and air traffic control - and proper identification procedures.

      But it has a battlefield capacity to be fired direct from the vehicle using only its forward radar.

      •  Exactly... (4+ / 0-)
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        jan4insight, Yonit, Brit, joe from Lowell

        Then there's this, for what it is worth...

        Laughing rebels filmed the plane as it crashed, gleefully bragging ‘That was a blast – look at the smoke!’ while a fireball rose from the debris.

        One of the voices is believed to be militia commander Igor Strelkov, who then penned a triumphant war cry on Twitter, saying: ‘We warned you – do not fly in “our sky”.’

        A sickening mobile phone video posted online shows a pall of black smoke billowing over the crash site as three rebels provide an excited commentary.

        Still... Hard to believe the SA-17 radar didn't or couldn't identify a civilian transponder... Not a technical challenge.
      •  I'm sorry, could you dumb that down for me? (0+ / 0-)

        Let's pretend - heh "pretend" - that I don't know what any of that means.

        How does someone operating the missile launcher know what the transponder code coming from his target means? Does he have to do anything? Does the unit automatically tell him?

        Art is the handmaid of human good.

        by joe from Lowell on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 07:36:38 AM PDT

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