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  •  In the internal struggle between (7+ / 0-)

    "The Two Obamas", one advocating for and perhaps even believing in genuine progressive action and reform, the other far more cautious, calculating and conservative and in some ways even authoritarian, the latter has tended to win out, consistently. Whether it's due to "pragmatism", political reality, cowardice, incompetence, laziness, or because deep down he's simply a lot more conservative and even authoritarian than we'd like, I don't know. But when crunch time comes, he usually runs right.

    Perhaps it's a generational thing. I'm just a few years younger than him and I've long found that members of our generation are far more conservative and selfish than members of the preceding one. Or, perhaps, it's just who he is.

    "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

    by kovie on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 07:04:40 AM PDT

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    •  I want to know who his Cheney is? (4+ / 0-)

      You know, the "evil one" talking him into these awful decisions behind the scenes.

      Even Democrats can be asses. Look at Rahm Emanuel.

      by Helpless on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 08:39:00 AM PDT

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    •  And the (0+ / 0-)

      next generation of political leaders.

      "[I]n the absence of genuine leadership, they'll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone...They're so thirsty for it they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand."

      by cardboardurinal on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 08:55:43 AM PDT

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    •  Biden doesn't miss a beat (2+ / 0-)
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      POTUS is one job I would NEVER do. Wouldn't want it. You can't do anything right- not even for the people who "support" you. Like he or whoever is in that seat, can just do whatever s/he wants. You all are smarter than that. What he may believe personally is not what he needs to act upon.  No, I wouldn't even attempt being POTUS. I'd rather stay out here and criticize and complain while I do nothing but watch the doers do.  Remember, when he DOES act to get something done- especially something the opposition WANTED done- he gets sued...What a country!

      •  So unless one runs for president and WINS (1+ / 0-)
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        Lonesome Jeff

        one is not qualified to criticize the president? I take it that you never said a bad word about Bush when he was in office. That would make you a hypocrite, of course, and clearly you're too pure to be one.

        Btw, I'm naturalized, so I can't be president. Details, details.

        "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

        by kovie on Sat Jul 19, 2014 at 07:13:14 PM PDT

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      •  Like 330 million people even could elect to (0+ / 0-)

        become President (POTUS makes him sound like a potato, doesn't it? I don't like any of those geeky wonky terms!).

        Since all citizens cannot be the president, it is nearly obligatory (if the system is supposed to work) to express their needs, desires, wants, and opinions on all matters. That's our system.

        Your comment is simply disingenuous.  Citizens in a democracy are permitted, indeed, it is their duty to participate and express their opinions and desires. No one is above criticism, especially elected officials.

        You seem to be opposed to people participating according to their duty to a participatory democratic system. That and oddly sarcastic about people who do.

        "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

        by YucatanMan on Sun Jul 20, 2014 at 10:11:25 PM PDT

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