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  •  The hallmark of a professional journalist is (2+ / 0-)
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    FiredUpInCA, peacestpete

    self-censorship, in keeping with status quo power relations.

    She was supposed to shut up about the context of the "story".

    This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

    by JJustin on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 02:27:57 PM PDT

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    •  By including the word 'scum' she harmed (6+ / 0-)

      her ability to do her job well in that region. A key to her success is access. How many doors do you think slammed in her face after that tweet?

      Reporting what happened was fair game. The name calling, nope.

      In our criminal justice system, a Republican is presumed innocent until the 2nd Coming. - Gooserock

      by ExpatGirl on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 02:42:51 PM PDT

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      •  And how many doors opened? n/t (6+ / 0-)

        The world is bad enough as it is, you have no right to make it any worse.
        Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

        by InAntalya on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 02:46:19 PM PDT

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      •  I don't know that access was the issue (3+ / 0-)
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        StrayCat, JayinPortland, Jersey Jon

        I think it was more about the appearance of objectivity. I say appearance, because all journalists have biases, they are only human. Good journalists overcome or suppress those biases.

        As for access, I think journalists are far too deferential to people in power, for fear of losing access. But access becomes worthless when the reporter merely becomes a tool. Where is Mike Wallace when you need him?

        •  Probably an equal mix of both. (2+ / 0-)
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          Israel is trying to run a tight messaging campaign in the face of a lot of global condemnation. That tweet could be used in lot of different ways by people who know what they are doing.

          Her job is to get people to talk to her. That tweet goes viral in Israel and people will scream at and cuss her but certainly not open up to her. And she certainly couldn't go back to that hilltop.

          And if CNN didn't transfer her, it would have broader repercussions for the rest of their journalists trying to cover not only this story in the country but future ones. Look at how mad pro-Israel supporters (waves to you ;) get when they feel the country is being unfairly maligned. How much more visceral that would be within Israel itself at the height of this issue.

          In our criminal justice system, a Republican is presumed innocent until the 2nd Coming. - Gooserock

          by ExpatGirl on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 03:08:49 PM PDT

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          •  The Israeli mob threatened the reporter (7+ / 0-)

            before she called them by the mild epithet "scum".

            They made themselves part of the story.  They did not do so with behavior accurately describable as "good citizens" -- which would also have been an "opinion".

            This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

            by JJustin on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 03:16:01 PM PDT

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            •  JJustin (3+ / 0-)

              I realize you feel passionately about this but you are beating a dead horse at this point. It is possible to both agree with how she felt - and everyone agrees that sharing the threat was valid - but understand the real world consequences of including the word 'scum'.

              She compromised her ability to do the job required in that region and was transferred to another post to report on an equally important story. That isn't 'punishment'. That is CNN dealing with the reality of the situation.

              In our criminal justice system, a Republican is presumed innocent until the 2nd Coming. - Gooserock

              by ExpatGirl on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 03:26:03 PM PDT

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              •  You know nothing about me or my passions. (4+ / 0-)
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                So stop the ad hominem.

                She compromised nothing.  She accurately characterized a gang of bigots with a mild epithet.

                If, in another context, she had described an equivalent group who didn't behave other than civilly as "good citizens," there wouldn't be any comment whatsoever about it.

                And yet such would be no less an "opinion".

                But how about we deal with the facts:

                1.  The mob threatened the reporter.

                2.  That made the threat, and who made it, part of the story.

                3.  Based upon the facts, one cannot but view that mob as -- at very least -- "scum".

                Unless one is biased against stating unpleasant facts about Israel and attitudes of a significant number of its citizens.

                When bigotry is allowed in a culture, it is revealed in word and deed.

                This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

                by JJustin on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 03:31:52 PM PDT

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              •  Don't waste your time on him (1+ / 0-)
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                JayinPortland

                His only purpose is to disrupt and inflame. You and I may have divergent views, but we can talk like sentient adults, I hope. He has no interest in that, as all his comments have shown. He is nothing more than a troll.

        •  Good journalists show their bias/es, are honest (6+ / 0-)

          about them, rather than lying on the point.

          As concerns the story, the "people in power" were the Israeli mob who threatened the reporter for telling the truth.

          This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

          by JJustin on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 03:14:17 PM PDT

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        •  However, the usual pro Israeli bias by much of our (5+ / 0-)

          news readers and reporters is never mentioned, or punished.

          Patriotism may be the last refuge of scoundrels, but religion is assuredly the first.

          by StrayCat on Fri Jul 18, 2014 at 03:45:49 PM PDT

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