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  •  Hamas equal Ebola? (20+ / 0-)

    Wow.  That's some pretty good hating you've got going on there.  Why are Hamas almost as noxious as hemorrhagic fever -- is it, perhaps, because of their hating?  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 11:20:04 AM PDT

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    •  ahem.... (7+ / 0-)
      But even if the links have become distant from each other, and even if the obstacles erected by those who revolve in the Zionist orbit, aiming at obstructing the road before the Jihad fighters, have rendered the pursuance of Jihad impossible; nevertheless, the Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah’s promise whatever time it might take. The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim).
      I support the Palestinian people who want peace.

      Fuck Hamas.

      Obama 2012 http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

      by jiffypop on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 11:31:55 AM PDT

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      •  Apparently Hamas is a race of people now (2+ / 0-)
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        Give the HR pile-on by people who can't tell the difference between trashing an ideology and an ethnicity.

        What lovers of peace.  They're now apologizing for Hamas.  One wonders if they even know what it is.

        •  http://tinyurl.com/ojnlf9 (7+ / 0-)
          3. DEHUMANIZATION: One group denies the humanity of the other group. Members of it are equated with animals, vermin, insects or diseases. Dehumanization overcomes the normal human revulsion against murder. At this stage, hate propaganda in print and on hate radios is used to vilify the victim group. In combating this dehumanization, incitement to genocide should not be confused with protected speech. Genocidal societies lack constitutional protection for countervailing speech, and should be treated differently than democracies. Local and international leaders should condemn the use of hate speech and make it culturally unacceptable. Leaders who incite genocide should be banned from international travel and have their foreign finances frozen. Hate radio stations should be shut down, and hate propaganda banned. Hate crimes and atrocities should be promptly punished.

          "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is the first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk. Every state is totalitarian at heart; there are no ends to the cruelty it will go to to protect itself." -- Ian McDonald

          by Geenius at Wrok on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 12:23:41 PM PDT

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          •  You recced a comment calling people monsters (3+ / 0-)
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            just yesterday.

            Is "monsters" not a dehumanizing term, or is it that some people are okay to dehumanize?

            •  I'd say humans can be monsters. (2+ / 0-)
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              Humans cannot be Ebola virus.

              "Turns out I'm really good at killing people." - President Obama

              by jrooth on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 12:55:43 PM PDT

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              •  Who said they can be? (4+ / 0-)

                WinSmith certainly didn't:

                Apologism for Hamas.  Impressive.  What next?  Ebola just has a right to exist as a sentient organism?
                That doesn't call Hamas Ebola. It suggests that someone who would be dumb enough to root for Hamas might also be dumb enough to root for Ebola. Whether that should even be considered "dehumanizing language" at all is debatable--it seems to me that it merely observes that both Hamas and Ebola are really bad things.

                By contrast, calling people monsters seems pretty explicitly dehumanizing to me.

            •  That comment is twice removed (2+ / 0-)
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              from the kind of dehumanizing language described in my quote: it refers neither to animals nor disease, and it doesn't apply the condemnation in blanket form to all members of a group.

              Nevertheless, I've removed the rec anyway, because unlike some, I'd rather back out of a gray area than try to claim it's really white because something else is black.

              "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is the first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk. Every state is totalitarian at heart; there are no ends to the cruelty it will go to to protect itself." -- Ian McDonald

              by Geenius at Wrok on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 01:30:05 PM PDT

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      •  Yes, Hamas hates (2+ / 0-)
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        Some would even say that makes them subhuman.  So, is hating back, a good and noble thing?  

        "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

        by lgmcp on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 12:02:35 PM PDT

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      •  Fuck Hamas? Fuck the Israeli Government! (2+ / 0-)
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        It is a terrorist state. And it has killed 100 times more innocent people than Hamas has.

        He reported that day on a killing, another of the hundreds he has documented over the years. As twenty little children pulled up in their school bus at the Indira Gandhi kindergarten, their 20 year-old teacher, Najawa Khalif, waved to them – and an Israel shell hit her and she was blasted to pieces in front of them. He arrived a day later, to find the shaking children drawing pictures of the chunks of her corpse.
        http://www.independent.co.uk/...
        And this:
        On September 27, 2008, right when the morning and afternoon school shifts were changing over and all of the children were out on the street, the IDF began bombing Gaza—100 tons of bombs that one day. Miko Peled calls it the most shameful day in the history of the Jewish people.

        http://youtu.be/...

        Educate yourself.

        Obama: Pro-Pentagon, pro-Wall Street, pro-drilling, pro-fracking, pro-KXL, pro-surveillance. And the only person he prosecuted for the U.S. torture program is the man who revealed it. Clinton: More of the same.

        by expatjourno on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 12:35:08 AM PDT

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    •  maybe because of the Passover seders and (4+ / 0-)

      buses with kiids on them and night clubs they've blown up in the past?

      They're so nice now that the Iron Dome works amd hteir rockets can't hit anyone.

      •  What do you call people who blow up teachers? (3+ / 0-)
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        He reported that day on a killing, another of the hundreds he has documented over the years. As twenty little children pulled up in their school bus at the Indira Gandhi kindergarten, their 20 year-old teacher, Najawa Khalif, waved to them – and an Israel shell hit her and she was blasted to pieces in front of them. He arrived a day later, to find the shaking children drawing pictures of the chunks of her corpse.

        http://www.independent.co.uk/...

        I guess that makes the IDF heroes in your book.

        Obama: Pro-Pentagon, pro-Wall Street, pro-drilling, pro-fracking, pro-KXL, pro-surveillance. And the only person he prosecuted for the U.S. torture program is the man who revealed it. Clinton: More of the same.

        by expatjourno on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 12:38:02 AM PDT

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