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  •  No one in Maine (1+ / 0-)
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    considers Alfond to be the LG, and I'd say it's probably the same way in NH. Those two states should be added to the list of states that don't have an LG.

    Also, the Democrats' current advantage in the Maine state senate is actually 19-15, plus one independent who generally votes with the Dems (Richard Woodbury). I'd say the Dems are favored to pick up one or two seats in the state senate in November. Once the deadline passes for new candidates filing after the post-primary withdrawals, I will update my earlier diary.

    (-8.38, -4.72), CT-02 (home), ME-01 (college) "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." -Spock

    by ProudNewEnglander on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 07:38:04 AM PDT

    •  I doubt most considered Earl Ray Tomblin WV's LG (10+ / 0-)

      That didn't stop him from becoming governor when Manchin left. The diary is about politicians next in line to become governor who are elected separately from the governor. In most cases that's the LG, but sometimes it's the secretary of state of a legislative leader.

      Contributing Editor, Daily Kos Elections. 24, male, CA-18 (home and voting there), LA-02 (resident). Formerly known as Darth Jeff.

      by Jeff Singer on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 07:58:37 AM PDT

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      •  Then the title of this diary is very misleading (1+ / 0-)
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        since, obviously, there is no LG election in either New Hampshire or Maine this year.

        What is it with Stephen Wolf and his misleading comments? First there was the 'three-party vote' nonsense in his recent governors' diary, and now this. Doesn't he realize that people can't read his mind? He really needs to be more precise with these diaries.

        This diary should be called 'A state-by-state look at elections to offices that are first in line for the governorship'.

        And if that's too complicated, then only include, you know, actual LG elections.

        (-8.38, -4.72), CT-02 (home), ME-01 (college) "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." -Spock

        by ProudNewEnglander on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 08:27:24 AM PDT

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        •  Why does it bother you so much (7+ / 0-)

          that NH and ME are included?  You've presented him with two options:

          1) An overlong wordy title that won't draw readers.  This is silly.

          2) Neglecting offices that are first in line to the governorship, just because they aren't called "Lieutenant Governor".  Which is also silly.

          •  It bothers me (0+ / 0-)

            because it simply isn't accurate. The article is purportedly about 'lieutenant gubernatorial elections', and yet it contains elections that do not involve lieutenant governors.

            I don't think that we should consider state legislative leaders in states with no LG to be lieutenant governors, because that's not what they were elected to do, and as a result that's not what the vast majority of them do.

            Why is it so hard to say that some states just don't have an LG?

            (-8.38, -4.72), CT-02 (home), ME-01 (college) "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." -Spock

            by ProudNewEnglander on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 09:28:38 AM PDT

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          •  Yes this is exactly why (7+ / 0-)

            there was no good way to put that distinction in the title. I clearly noted above the fold that I would look at whatever office was first in line other than lieutenant governor. In particular I wanted to include Maine and New Hampshire because their senates are competitive and they have a senate president of the opposite party as the governor.

            Also I was considering Richard Woodbury as part of the Democrats' majority, but I'll make a note that he's officially an independent for clarity.

            •  A world of Difference (0+ / 0-)

              Mr. Wolf apparently cannot see the distinction between a Lieutenant Governor elected by the full franchise of the state (whether on a gubernatorial ticket or not), and a Senate President elected by the Majority of the upper house (in Maine generally 20 or fewer individuals).  Also, since in Maine the Senate President has not succeeded since the death of Clinton Clauson in 1959, gubernatorial qualification is a vanishingly small component of the selection criteria.

              This would be a minor and mildly humorous goof were it not for Mr. Wolf's history of shabby analysis and slipshod presentation.  We rightly do not judge who is qualified to contribute to DKoz, but we certainly judge what is worth reading and for me, this is Wolf's last out.

      •  Tomblin was officially a Lieutenant Governor (4+ / 0-)

        He was not elected statewide but the position is official in West Virginia since a few years (maybe 5).

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