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  •  I read Schumer's op-ed. (5+ / 0-)
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    It's all conjecture, but I wonder if his proposal wouldn't have the following (generally positive) effect:

    1) cutting the legs out from under the extreme right wingers.
    2) little to no effect on Democrats, who are already not too far from the middle.

    If that happened, and the overall Republican population of the House moved toward the center, that might not be a bad thing, assuming it didn't elect more Republicans overall of course.

    It won't happen anyway, but Schumer is right about the fact that in Republican primaries, a very small percentage of voters have an outsized effect, which echoes throughout the Republican Congressional delegation. But who knows, really?

    •  I think it's a bad idea (7+ / 0-)

      Our parties aren't as polarized as the voting population is. People vote on issues, and there are no moderates when it comes to something like abortion or  war. Issues are highly divisive. Getting rid of partisanship will just result in guys like Shumer getting elected who piss everybody off and make everything worse.

      Small varmints, if you will.

      by aztecraingod on Tue Jul 22, 2014 at 12:34:15 PM PDT

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    •  Schumer points out Louisiana (4+ / 0-)
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      ...Louisiana, for chrissakes, as a model for how open primaries moderate politicians.

      Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

      by milkbone on Tue Jul 22, 2014 at 12:37:32 PM PDT

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    •  I was a pollworker ... (5+ / 0-)

      ...at the 2012 NY Presidential primary in my Upper West Side District.  Three (3) Republicans voted that day.  So, a fringe group of Republicans is calling their shots, but Schumer compares apples and oranges.  What he wants is to keep the money in place.  His program would marginalize Progressives as well as Tea Party hacks as long as the airwaves and the Party Bosses are controlled by Wall St., Houston and San Diego.

      It's a gimmick.  What we need is real reform:  publicly funded elections, public control of the airwaves and the internet, and weekend or all-day voting, among other things.

      Cut the crap, Schumer!  We need fully-funded public education and Civics classes, paid for with the 15% hike in capital gains you scuttle every budget cycle.

      "... all things for which you pray and ask, believe that you have received them, and they will be granted you." --Mark 11:24

      by november3rd on Tue Jul 22, 2014 at 01:27:03 PM PDT

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    •  Agree half with you, Ian (0+ / 0-)

      A "top-two" primary system might not affect Democrats as much in majority- or mostly-Democratic districts, but the notion that a non-partisan primary will keep extreme right-wingers out of political office is, IMO, wishful thinking in the extreme. As I wrote to the NYT, the "polarization" of politics stems from the electorate, not the electoral process: Sen. Schumer seems to have the idea that open primaries will inevitably lead to simple extremist-vs-moderate election choices: in reality, in all too many districts, the "final" ballot choice will more likely end up being between one nutty winger, and an even nuttier winger: how this will help to moderate political "polarization" is beyond me.

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