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  •  As the brits know, you can still GerryMander a (11+ / 0-)

    parliamentary system.

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 12:33:39 PM PDT

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    •  its faster and easier to pass legislation (3+ / 0-)
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      •  Prior to 2009, I'd have said that was not a bad (10+ / 0-)

        thing (to have slower legislation).  The recent, MASSIVE colonic obstruction known as the GOP makes me have to reconsider that view.

        Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
        I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
        —Spike Milligan

        by polecat on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 12:37:30 PM PDT

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        •  Opposing filibuster reform and the like (7+ / 0-)

          simply because later on someone might do something evil with it is just shortsighted.  The GOP would never have had the chance to implement their batshit crazy ideas in 2011, if the Democrats had been able to deliver on theirs when they had a legitimate (if not super-) majority.  Further, the GOP never has any trouble implementing their own agenda, whether they have a supermajority, a bare majority, or even no majority at all.  This is a major problem with the Democrats which goes well beyond filibuster reform…but if there were no filibuster, Democrats would either have been forced to act on their 2008 agenda, or everyone would have been wide awake by 2010 that they were just lying.  They would not have been able to have it both ways, as they've been doing the last 2 decades.

          To quote George Washington on this subject:  

          I have never yet been able to discover the propriety of placing it absolutely out of the power of men to render essential services, because a possibility remains of their doing ill.

          Shirley Chisholm was right. Our Republic is in deep trouble.

          by Big River Bandido on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 01:03:41 PM PDT

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      •  Its faster and easier...for both sides (2+ / 0-)
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        Just be prepared for the results when you don't win the election.

    •  True, but you can get more done as the majority (2+ / 0-)
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      and it is more friendly to >2 parties.

    •  Amen (4+ / 0-)
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      I used to think a Parliamentary System would cure all that ails our political system. Then I saw what Netanyahu does to the Israeli Parliamentary System and realized we would do the same and probably worse. (Netanyahu is famous for seeing which way the political winds are blowing and calling a snap election when it favors him just so he can expand his influence by a percent or two)

      We would have an election multiple times a year whenever some faction within the ruling coalition thought they could gain a political upper hand. Also dysfunctional parliamentary governments take forever to form a coalition, iirc Iraq frequently takes 6 months to a year after an election just to form the government.

      One foil hat to rule them all

      by Aluminati on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 12:58:27 PM PDT

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