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  •  They are imposed by... (12+ / 0-)

    Somebody who is off their rocker(s). When I was 11, hell 8 and I'm serious about 8, during summer vacation, I could leave the house with my bat and glove by 9 in the morning and walk 1/4 mile to a vacant lot and play baseball all morning. Then go home for lunch at noon or 1, it didn't seem to matter, I don't remember being on the clock (but I did need to show up), then after lunch back for an afternoon of baseball. Or, since it was a seaside town, off to the beach to meet the other kids, about 1/4 mile in the other direction. Or, about 1/2 mile to my best friends house. I had to say where I was going, and knew I had to be back early enough to avoid a lot of drama. Other than that, I was pretty much free to ride bikes around town, play baseball, go to the beach, whatever, but it was ok to be gone 4 or 5 hours at a time as long as I checked in for lunch and was home by dinner.

    The amazing thing about that vs. today was it was not unusual at all. It was the same thing all the other kids were doing, and nobody was out arresting or firing their parents. And oh, yeah, a couple 9 or 10 year old boys could get in a fistfight, bloody noses and black eyes and nobody ever brought the police in. Never.

    •  Yes, we all had a lot more freedom (7+ / 0-)

      back in the day.  

      But I don't think blaming restrictiveness on the family status of social-service employees, makes a lot of sense.

      It is a much broader phenomenon that cuts across many elements of contemporary culture.

      "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

      by lgmcp on Tue Jul 22, 2014 at 05:02:37 PM PDT

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      •  I'm not blaming it on family status (4+ / 0-)
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        Just saying they are off their effing rockers

      •  "Back in the day"?? I did the same sort of thin... (4+ / 0-)

        "Back in the day"??

        I did the same sort of thing as recently as *1988*. Do NOT give me that "back in the day" horseshit. This is RECENT.

        Hell- my younger sister's friends had the exact same level of freedom as recently as the mid 1990s. This shit we're talking about JUST STARTED.

        •  Thank you! (5+ / 0-)

          I graduated high school in 1992 and there were never problems leaving the house and coming home whenever we felt like it. All summer long, throughout the 80s.

          Thank goodness, because otherwise we would have been just stuck at home watching TV. We were a single-mother household with three kids.

          This is a new thing, my generation as parents are creating this norm. It's very sad and I don't know what to do about it.

        •  Since I was a child in the 60s (0+ / 0-)

          and have not parented, it's hard for me to know just when it started.   And of course, not all neighborhoods would change at the same time, or ever.    But I think it's probably fair to say that the restrictiveness and paranoia has mushroomed over the last 20 years.

          "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

          by lgmcp on Thu Jul 24, 2014 at 10:21:41 AM PDT

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        •  Not so far Back in the Day (0+ / 0-)

          In 1985 we moved into a suburban shore town in New Jersey.  I told my 9-year-old son, "You can ride your bike anywhere in town you want to go.  If you have a problem, just go knock on the nearest front door, and the folks you meet will help you out!"  It was that kind of town, and that kind of community.  Not so much anymore.  Not sure why.  Partly 9/11, but it started before that.  I'm afraid it is mostly the "I've got mine, Screw you." attitude of the yuppie generation.  Sad.

          I think I am, therefore I am, I think.

          by MrSkeptic on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 07:05:32 PM PDT

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    •  Exactly (2+ / 0-)
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      Kids are not stupid.   Parents used to have the kids go outside and play.  We walked to school, then played some more after school.   It is no more dangerous now than it was then.   except for busy highways and freeways, it is mostly safe.    You can't live with fear all the time that something might happen, then you stifle your child.   Kids have been taken out of their own homes.   It is rare for a stranger kidnapping.   I hope they don't charge that poor woman, or hurt the child.

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