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  •  I just read that (9+ / 0-)

    The implications are horrifying.  How many people exposed on an airplane, in an airport?  How many people will they contact?  

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    by puzzled on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 09:37:16 PM PDT

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    •  One good thing-it isn't spread airborn (5+ / 0-)

      You get it from physical contact with the infected patient, their bodily fluids, and their infected belongings that have come in contact with bodily fluids (sorry if TMI). This may be why the whole world is not yet freaking out about this. You can sit on a plane a few seats away and be fine as long as you haven't touched anything that the patient has touched with contaminated hands or clothing.

      •  And they know this for sure how? Some (1+ / 0-)
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        strains of Ebola are airborne so unless they sequenced (or did other testing) samples taken from this specific patient how can they know?

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 03:39:52 AM PDT

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        •  How do you know that? (1+ / 0-)
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          I thought airborne Ebola was only a theoretical mutation scientists worry about.  

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          by Lefty Coaster on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 04:33:29 AM PDT

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      •  What if you touch the back of the seat where the (1+ / 0-)
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        infected person has laid his or her head, and the scratch your nose?  Or sneeze and put your hand over your mouth?

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        by StrayCat on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 05:50:55 AM PDT

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        •  I was not saying you couldn't be exposed. (0+ / 0-)

          I said you could escape  exposure because it was not airborne. Thus the word "can".  If you do not touch them or any object contaminated by their bodily fluids you would not be exposed. It isn't hard to be a few rows away and never touch something some else touched. You might, but many people on the plane would not.

          On the other hand, f it were airborne, like influenza, everyone would be exposed as they re-circulate the air on planes.

          Iirc, that is one reason why influenza worries public health officials so much. It is airborne. Spreads faster/easier. I think that is why countries are not slamming shut their borders right now because of Ebola.

          If a flu pandemic -airborne disease-started that was highly contagious (many of those exposed get sick like Ebola-varies with different/evolving flu strains) and had a kill rate of over half as this Ebola does, the public health reaction would be deafening. Nation's borders would slam shut, it seems to me.

          ie headrest. Reminder that it is bodily fluids, which I suppose must or may include sweat, that are infectious. It may be that a headrest could have drool on it, but iam guessing t is likely to be less infectious than the bodily fluids the hospital workers and family caregivers of the sick are exposed to in volume that sometimes gets them sick.

    •  Researcher Dr. Gatherer said the "main threat of.. (3+ / 0-)
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      Ebola spreading to the UK would come from infected people... (emphasis mine)

      ...travelling from major airports in West Africa to Europe...

      Since 1976 [first outbreak of the disease], the World Health Organisation has done a good job of keeping it contained.

      The key this time possibly lies in what happens to the cases in the big cities...

      He added that he would recommend airlines in West Africa to closely monitor passengers in a bid to stop the virus spreading.

      Dr Gatherer said those with Ebola who are still feeling healthy are "not likely to be contagious" so the focus should be on those travelling who feel unwell.

      The Ebola virus is spread by contact with bodily fluids from infected people, which includes urine, sweat and blood, and symptoms include headaches, fever and internal and external bleeding...

      Unfortunately, the fact that the passenger, Mr. Patrick Sawyer, a consultant for the Liberian finance ministry, collapsed in the airport, and then passed away shortly after arriving on a flight is proof that there are definitely "opportunities for improvement" in the "airlines in West Africa closely monitoring passengers in a bid to stop the virus spreading."  He managed to get on the plane, despite being so ill that he collapsed and died shortly after arrival.  

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