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  •  There's no such thing as a just war; (10+ / 0-)

    this is cant invented -- in its most recent incarnation -- by a Protestant theologian who was also a Cold Warrior.  

    Some forms of warfare (defense, for instance) are less reprehensible than others, but killing is always categorically wrong.  Until mankind realizes that, it will continue to make excuses for killing.

    Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

    by corvo on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 08:57:33 AM PDT

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    •  Just War theory (0+ / 0-)

      JWT was around for centuries--actually, invented by Catholics--long before there were any Protestants.  Of course, it is incompatible with a position of unqualified pacifism, which seems to be what you are advocating.  But one need not be a pacifist to condemn a particular war and/or the way it is being fought.    

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      by Tony Greco on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 10:33:52 AM PDT

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      •  you seem to have missed the part where (1+ / 0-)
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        I wrote "in its most recent incarnation."

        Believe it or not, I don't advocate unqualified pacifism either.  I operate on the assumption that killing is always wrong, but that its wrongness may be mitigated by necessity.  

        You don't read very well, but I imagine you just chose not to.

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 10:36:49 AM PDT

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        •  Reading well (1+ / 0-)
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          Sorry, I do read very carefully.  You said "killing is always categorically wrong" which means that all wars must be categorically wrong (even if some are less reprehensible than others).  That certainly sounds like a pure pacifist position, but I appreciate your clarification.  

          I also noted and considered your "most recent incarnation," but I wanted readers to understand that JWT has a very long history, which you seem inclined to dismiss.  

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          by Tony Greco on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 01:02:52 PM PDT

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          •  No, I just wanted to point out (0+ / 0-)

            that its most recent incarnation was an act of Cold War apologetics -- or better, chop-logic.  The fact that it was birthed by some Pfarrer is a nice thick layer of icing on that cake.  

            Although I must say that your style of responding to commentary is appropriate to, say, responses to letters in the New York Review of Books.

            That's not a compliment, by the way :-)  

            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

            by corvo on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 01:07:50 PM PDT

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    •  so with you on this one (1+ / 0-)
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      and I don't know if you agree or not but I find the so called  Rules of War to be the cruelest joke of all.

      •  they're doubly a joke. (1+ / 0-)
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        First as a particularly alarming example of pig-lipsticking; second because nobody follows them anyway.

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 10:37:46 AM PDT

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