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  •  Has this ever worked? (1+ / 0-)
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    joe from Lowell

    I mean 'economic sanctions" as a way of forcing a change in state behavior.

    •  It's working with Iran. The (6+ / 0-)

      nuclear non-proliferation agreement was reached last November, after sanctions cut deeply into Iran's crude oil exports.

    •  Who says the sanctions are to change Putin's (3+ / 0-)

      behavior? It's a non-lethal infliction of pain and suffering. I don't think the president is thinking Putin will change. But, you can't let this type of aggression go uncontested. This is smart.

    •  South Africa. (7+ / 0-)

      And if you don't believe me, then go back and watch speeches by Mandella.  He certainly advocated sanctions against South Africa and believed they played a big role in ending apartheid.

    •  I realize you've not actually suggested... (0+ / 0-)

      that calling in the military would be more successful, but questioning economic sanctions is almost always followed by an insistence that bombing the hell out of someone is a better idea.

      Whether or not economic sanctions have been successful in the past, I'd much rather see used as far as they can go before military options are even considered.  Because if there is even a chance they'll work, it's better than more war.

      •  I am just wondering (0+ / 0-)

        If a big country like Russia, with lots of natural resources and weapons,  can be swayed by something like this.  Iran and South Africa are not in the same league.

        I am not advocating the use of military force, and I doubt Europe or the American people have the stomach for it.  Russia may just get away with this.

      •  It's fair to ask how much economic sanctions (0+ / 0-)

        are working vs who they're hurting.

        Remember the UN oil for food program?  That's the one Saddam Hussein side-stepped while funneling money to French banks and to the Russians while starving half a million Shi'ite  children.

        "Doing something" makes you feel better and expresses international disapproval , but isn't always constructive.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 02:56:03 AM PDT

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