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  •  You can say anything you want. But remember... (0+ / 0-)

    Godwin's rule.  When you use a hyperbolic term, you weaken your arguement.  Use of "Genocide" to describe the situation in Gaza is a perfect example.  It is nothing like genocide, in no way approaches genocide and trivilizes genocide.

    Using it in this instance is lazy and insensitive; not to mention self-defeating.

    Tax and Spend I can understand. I can even understand Borrow and Spend. But Borrow and give Billionaires tax cuts? That I have a problem with.

    by LiberalCanuck on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 11:52:34 AM PDT

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    •  Wrong, wrong, and wrong. (4+ / 0-)
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      Lies written in ink can never disguise facts written in blood.--Lu Xun, quoted in NYT

      by Timaeus on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 12:00:29 PM PDT

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    •  Still, there's a point to be made (3+ / 0-)
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      regarding Israel's apparent long-term goal that, to appearances, seems to embrace the eventual disappearance of all Palestinians from whatever land they deem their own.  While that does not overtly and directly mean extermination on par with the Holocaust or Rwanda, the present Israeli indifference to Palestinian lives does invite the comparison.

      You can't spell CRAZY without R-AZ.

      by rb608 on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 12:03:46 PM PDT

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      •  Only if you accept you first premise... (0+ / 0-)

        As with all CT you must accept an unproven assertion as true, before all other assertions have any merit.  Despite not being supported by any facts, that acceptance of the first premise, invites acceptance of the unproven or even directly contradicted conclusion.

        Can it be argued with facts (not assertions) that Israel's long term goal is the eventual disappearance of all Palestinians.  I don't think it can given that you yourself used "apparent", "to appearances", "seems" in your own opening premise.

        So no, Israel's actions do not invite the comparison to genocide.  In fact, its actions from the past 50 years indicate the exact opposite of genocide and in fact the Palestinian population has grown under Israeli control, not shrunk.  

        The facts contradict your conclusion.

        Tax and Spend I can understand. I can even understand Borrow and Spend. But Borrow and give Billionaires tax cuts? That I have a problem with.

        by LiberalCanuck on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 12:13:26 PM PDT

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