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  •  What of it? (1+ / 0-)
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    IndieGuy

    Even producing an regional economy with American levels of inequality would be a vast improvement over the current state of the affairs.  When Gazans have something more to fight for than hatred for occupation, you'll see the violence drop considerably.

    •  So what you're saying (1+ / 0-)
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      IndieGuy

      Is that changing them from field negros to house negros will make them more tolerant of being an occupied people?

      •  That's exactly what I'm saying (1+ / 0-)
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        but then again I'm only working with the choices you give me.  I highly doubt the occupation will survive an increasingly industrial, technological Palestinian society.

        •  Which is exactly why Israel... (1+ / 0-)
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          polecat

          ...is ensuring that an industrial, technological Palestinian society is not possible.

          But I digress.

        •  A more industrial/technological Pal. society (1+ / 0-)
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          Will probably result in a more capable and effective Hamas.  I don't think they just go away because the standard of living increases.

          One possible mechanism for ending the occupation is for Hamas to make the cost of suppression unbearably high so that Israel is willing to walk away.  Of course, Israel seems to be willing to bear a rather high cost.  I don't see Israel as being likely to talk away until it is convinced that Hamas is no longer a threat.  I don't see Hamas being willing to stop just because economic conditions are better.

          •  It will also make for a Hamas accountable (0+ / 0-)

            for the standard of living in Gaza, and more averse to doing things that will risk it.  After all, you can't have an industrial, technological society when every year you invite Israel to ground it into the bedrock.

            Gaza is effectively a single metropolitan area.  The cost of suppression is rather low depending on how bloody you're willing to get.  The trick is to attract overseas investment into municipal Gaza and keep it there long enough that Hamas is no longer willing to risk its loss and the cost of suppression now covers Israel's relationships with her own trading partners.

            •  There are always going to be ideologues (0+ / 0-)

              Who are uninterested in being good little capitalists with the goal of maximizing wealth.  If they see themselves in chains, no amount of money is going to make some people happy with a lifetime in chains.

              You're basically saying that trickle down economics will pacify Palestinians.  I highly doubt that.

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