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  •  Who is being prosecuted for NSA, CIA & FBI (4+ / 0-)

    spying and wire(less) tapping of American citizens? It ain't the guys doing the spying and wire tapping or those who ordered it. No, it is those who have revealed it. What do you think would happen to Holder and Obama if they attempted to prosecute Bush, Cheney, Yoo and Adelson? It wouldn't be pretty.

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    by ratcityreprobate on Sun Aug 03, 2014 at 02:17:49 PM PDT

    •  ratcityreprobate (9+ / 0-)
      It wouldn't be pretty.
      Neither is torture.

      The law calls for investigation &, if warranted, prosecution.
      There is no mention of "pretty" nor any other qualitative language.

      (This is just a statement & not directed at you personally.)

      I`m already against the next war.

      by Knucklehead on Sun Aug 03, 2014 at 02:24:35 PM PDT

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      •  Of course torture is not pretty, but the risk of (2+ / 0-)
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        death for Obama and Holder if they brought prosecutions is too high, not 50/50 but certainly 10, 15 or 20%. Lot of loose cannons in our torturing community. Cheney would be fund raising for a hit man before the ink was dry on the indictments.

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        by ratcityreprobate on Sun Aug 03, 2014 at 02:58:41 PM PDT

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        •  ratcityreprobate (3+ / 0-)

          Risk of death for Obama & Holder was not in the calculation to simply look forward as far as I know, nor should it be.
          Risk of death to some of the tortured was 100% in some cases, & they cannot be brought back to testify.
          You do know that the penalties for war crimes are quite severe & could result in the death penalty if those crimes resulted in the death of the tortured.
          I believe those penalties may even extend to those complicit if only by refusing to follow the rule of law.

          Even though the percentage of cases being filed for those who tortured including those who ordered it, may be nil, the percentage of guilt at refusing to pursue charges is at 100% till charges are filed.

          In this case & what is quite unusual, is that one is guilty until "looking forward" is changed to "looking back" & investigations are opened.

          That`s the law, & it should apply to all.

          I`m already against the next war.

          by Knucklehead on Sun Aug 03, 2014 at 06:43:38 PM PDT

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