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  •  Concerning talk, how can this regime come to the (3+ / 0-)
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    rest of the world so that it feels it can survive?  So much fear to stoke the fires of wariness.

    •  It's going to be rough (2+ / 0-)
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      Wife's family lives in Greater Seoul, with one branch trapped north of the border at the end of the war.  Negotiation is the national sport, which they play with utter ruthlessness, so on the one hand they are pretty blase about the endless rain of threats from the North while on the other they are impressed with how well the North has done given the intrinsic weakness of their position.  In fact it is a commonplace that the Foreign Secretary after reunification, which is only a matter of time as they truly are one people, will be a northerner as they have so much experience with byzantine maneuvering.  

      Which doesn't sound like much of a ringing endorsement of Koreans, except that I think highly enough of them to have married one.

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      by tarkangi on Thu Jul 31, 2014 at 06:06:14 PM PDT

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      •  I lived with a North Korean refugee family (1+ / 0-)
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        in Seoul when I was there in the Peace Corps starting in the summer of 1967. So I was there for the Pueblo incident and the North Korean assassination squad, which ended up tossing a grenade on a bus just before the police closed in, killing a good friend of my best friend.

        You are right that the regime in the North will collapse at some point, as the Soviet Union did, but we cannot say when. Reunification will be much worse than German reunification, given the quite different levels of poverty and oppression in the two Communist countries.

        Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

        by Mokurai on Thu Jul 31, 2014 at 11:34:24 PM PDT

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    •  North Korea would rather live off extortion (1+ / 0-)
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      Their ideology is a paranoid racist nationalism.  There's really nothing you could offer people like that which they wouldn't interpret as a nefarious plot to corrupt their precious bodily fluids.  So they threaten and extort which keeps the elite in luxuries and allows the country as a whole to creak along   The South Koreans - as fellow Koreans - are the only people who'd have even a chance of getting through ... but decades of propaganda have consistently portrayed South Korea as a brainwashed and racially polluted "Yankee colony" whose material well-being is treated as Judas' thirty pieces of silver.

      China's frustrations with North Korea are well known, but Chinese companies have sweetheart deals with Pyongyang to extract North Korea's extensive coal and other mineral resources for its own use and would hate to see them diverted to South Korea.  China also doesn't want to see the enormous US military presence in South Korea expand northward.  South Korea itself is completely intimidated by the prospect of integrating such a completely messed up country into itself and trying to raise 25 million stunted and brainwashed slaves just up to where South Korea was 30 years ago.  You really can't compare the situation to German reunification; it's just that bad.  In any event the younger generations don't have the same attitude that their parents and grandparents did and don't see reunification as a national imperative.

      Domestic politics is the continuation of civil war by other means.

      by Visceral on Thu Jul 31, 2014 at 06:59:52 PM PDT

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