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  •  Go Dr Milton!!! (1+ / 0-)
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    tmservo433

    Only 14 points. You can do this!

    •  As close as possible without winning (3+ / 0-)
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      kd4dean, skohayes, CWinebrinner

      Would be best, because then it's a lock for a four way senate race in KS.  But if he wins, it would significantly increase democrat and moderate voter turnout.

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      by Chris Reeves on Mon Aug 04, 2014 at 11:26:56 AM PDT

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      •  sore loser law (1+ / 0-)
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        will all but prevent Milton Wolf from being the fourth, actually, fifth candidate on the ballot, iirc. There is a Libertarian candidate.  5,000 valid signatures would have had to be presented today to put Wolf on the November ballot as an independent.  His only option would be to run as a write-in candidate.

        Dr. John Brinkley, the infamous goat gland doctor was nearly elected as a write-in candidate in 1932.

        •  There is no sore loser law in Kansas on Federal (1+ / 0-)
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          skohayes

          Races.  Only state races.  He is free to run as a write in during a federal race.  (and, FYI, he already pretty well has the signatures if he wants them)

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          by Chris Reeves on Mon Aug 04, 2014 at 12:37:25 PM PDT

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          •  Kansas seems to have a sore loser law (1+ / 0-)
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            I'm not sure we really disagree. I agree that Wolf can run as a write-in candidate. There doesn't seem to be a requirement for petitions to do that.  Only a notice to the Secretary of State. However, to clarify,  I think there is law against a primary loser running as an independent in the general election.  

            Kansas Statutes Chapter 25-202

            No candidate for any national, state, county or township office shall file for office as a partisan candidate in a primary election and also file for office as an independent candidate for any national, state, county or township office in the general election immediately following.
            Section 25-305

            Sets the deadline for independent candidates to file nominating petitions on the Monday before a primary election. Independent candidates cannot be a registered member of a party.

            Now I could be reading this wrong or have a bad source.

            •  We don't disagree (1+ / 0-)
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              kd4dean

              I was just clarifying.  In many states, including ours at the state level if you lose a primary you can't hop in as a write in candidate.  

              These rules have been amended since, and he can run as an independent afterwards.   What he can't do is run as both or pre-file as both.   There was a big discussion about this and the way the sore loser law works here. it's pretty confusing.  

              In other words, we have a lot of conflicting codes in Kansas and while the thought of him being able to file for a position is out, other states reject him running as a write-in as well, we don't do that.. so he can.

              That's all :)

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              by Chris Reeves on Mon Aug 04, 2014 at 02:36:53 PM PDT

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    •  Why? (0+ / 0-)

      I see him at family reunions occasionally and know him fairly well.  He is a nice enough guy, but his political positions are ridiculous.

    •  Careful what you wish for (1+ / 0-)
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      ptgkc

      Milton Wolf, I believe, is gonna knock Roberts off - too many Wolf signs.  

      But the dude is a nut - and worse, an articulate nut who sounds sane until you actually think about what he's saying.

      And he has a good shot at winning.

      Roberts may be cow-towing to the tea party - but in a national crisis (i.e. a real crisis) he'd be much better equipped to respond.

      I hated writing those words but they're true.

      •  I stopped thinking that way a couple years ago (2+ / 0-)
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        kd4dean, CWinebrinner

        Basically, having Milton Wolf instead of Pat Roberts in the Senate will make absolutely no difference whatsoever. Perhaps if Roberts, or his compatriots in the "sane" caucus, were to actually ever do something about it, I'd feel differently. Meanwhile, the Dems would have a punchers' chance of winning the seat with Wolf on the ballot. I'm all in.

      •  You know what they say about yard signs . . . (1+ / 0-)
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        David Nir

        Milt has seen a big uptick -- percentage-wise -- in signage in my neighborhood, but his yard can only hold so many before it becomes comical.

        More telling -- and more seriously -- he hasn't been able to arm-twist anyone in sight of our polling place to put a big sign up in their yard.  At least around here, it's kind of a test of support. Even our incumbent state rep has a nice big one a stone's throw from where the "no electioneering" signs go up tomorrow.

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        by Dead Eyed Suburbanite on Mon Aug 04, 2014 at 08:06:58 PM PDT

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