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  •  We should get rid of Dick Cheney (7+ / 0-)

    and people who think like him, and vote Democratic Party in the Presidential election November 2016 to start to revamp the GOP Taliban Supreme Court.

    The GOP has ruined the country. Fuck them and vote the motherfuckers out.

    -4.75, -5.33 Cheney 10/05/04: "I have not suggested there is a connection between Iraq and 9/11."

    by sunbro on Tue Aug 05, 2014 at 09:37:35 AM PDT

    •  We hired Obama to do that. (14+ / 0-)

      He decided enforcing the rule of law was sanctimonious.

      You're suggesting, "better luck next time"?

      I've never left a blank space on a ballot... but I will not vote for someone [who vows] to spy on me. I will not do it. - dclawyer06

      Trust, but verify. - Reagan
      Vote, but Occupy. - commonmass

      by Words In Action on Tue Aug 05, 2014 at 11:14:28 AM PDT

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      •  Who knew this was optional: 18 U.S. Code § 2441 (12+ / 0-)

           

        18 U.S. Code § 2441 - War crimes

                    (a) Offense.— Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.
                    (b) Circumstances.— The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).
                    (c) Definition.— As used in this section the term “war crime” means any conduct—
                    (1) defined as a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party;
                    (2) prohibited by Article 23, 25, 27, or 28 of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV, Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, signed 18 October 1907;
                    (3) which constitutes a grave breach of common Article 3 (as defined in subsection (d)) when committed in the context of and in association with an armed conflict not of an international character; or
                    (4) of a person who, in relation to an armed conflict and contrary to the provisions of the Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Mines, Booby-Traps and Other Devices as amended at Geneva on 3 May 1996 (Protocol II as amended on 3 May 1996), when the United States is a party to such Protocol, willfully kills or causes serious injury to civilians
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        "If you're in a coalition and you're comfortable, you know it's not a broad enough coalition /= GTFO" Dr. Bernice Johnson Reagon + JVolvo

        by JVolvo on Tue Aug 05, 2014 at 11:52:49 AM PDT

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      •  What if the American People (0+ / 0-)

        are not as outraged as you are about this?

        Are you going to flush everything good that has come out of this Administration down the drain by helping to elect the GOP by bring Bush and Cheney to trial over this?

        This issue of bring the Bush Administration to trial does not have the American People behind it.

        A lot of progress has been made in other ways. I do not want to let this "prosecute the waterboarders!" issue to get in the way of us winning elections. Much more is at stake than this.

        We are not robots. We also hired a President who'd be able to make political calculations to see what is going to fly with the American People, and I'm glad that Obama is smart enough not to go blindly into prosecution mode. There are too many other important issues at stake.

        Yes, if prosecution is not politically possible, given all surrounding circumstances, then I would rather win more elections and get more of my agenda accomplished in the long run, even if it means leaving those assholes Bush and Cheney alone.

        -4.75, -5.33 Cheney 10/05/04: "I have not suggested there is a connection between Iraq and 9/11."

        by sunbro on Tue Aug 05, 2014 at 12:08:35 PM PDT

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      •  House, SCOTUS, 60-vote Senate in GOP hands (0+ / 0-)

        so that is the first order of business. We are not going to change that by demanding purity from candidates who need votes from every possible voter. That is down the road. I want the GOP out and that means not alienating people who have different priorities than people who follow politics closely.
        Atlantic Review did a poll in 2007. 41% of Americans thought Iraq was involved in planning, financing or directing 9-11 attacks. A majority could not identify Saudi Arabia as the country of origin of the majority of the attackers, something I knew before the first week was out.
        I think a lot of people on this site are putting the cart before the horse.  

        The US ranks 138th out of all 169 voting countries in actual voting. Since 1974, mid-term % of eligible voters who vote avgs. 37%. Democrats would dominate if they did one thing- GOTV. They never do. Curious.

        by Incredulousinusa on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 10:46:37 AM PDT

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